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10-08-2023 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
Sincere question: do you understand what the word “genocide” means? Bc I’m suspecting you don’t.

Also I’ve lived in Israel, have far more understanding and experience than a guy like you.
I am quite familiar with the definitions / requirements.

Are you aware of your bias having lived there and how do you counter it?



In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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10-08-2023 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
Why don’t all Israelis just kill themselves? Make it easier for everyone.
Banned if i were a mod
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10-08-2023 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
Banned if i were a mod
I interpreted his post as sarcasm.
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10-08-2023 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I interpreted his post as sarcasm.
I realized it a few moments later. My fault
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10-08-2023 , 06:21 PM
He meant Palestinians
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10-08-2023 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
I am quite familiar with the definitions / requirements.

Are you aware of your bias having lived there and how do you counter it?



In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Are you aware of your bias from your clear distaste of Jewish people?

So according to your definition, Hamas is committing genocide on the Israelis. Got it.
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10-08-2023 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I interpreted his post as sarcasm.
Correct
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10-08-2023 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
He meant Palestinians
I’m terrible sorry that the existence of Jews aggravates you.
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10-08-2023 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
Explain then. Im all ears
To your other post, God doesn't exist. So I'll keep waiting.

To this post, two things:

1. I hate that we always need to compare things and do what about this or that. These situations are different in more ways than I could explain.

2. In an attempt to simplify it's like if Ukraine lost this war kept fighting 50 years after they lost... But I don't even think that's super enough to make the comparison. Because the religious elements completely change the goals. The Ukrainian people want to exist, they don't want to take Moscow. So if the invasion of Ukraine ended you would not have the same issues.

I don't know if I need to keep writing. I would ask why they're similar at all.
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10-08-2023 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
Are you aware of your bias from your clear distaste of Jewish people?

So according to your definition, Hamas is committing genocide on the Israelis. Got it.
Yea I think they are too.

You guys are both doing it.

Since you wouldn’t call it a genocide, what would you call the Israeli treatment of Palestinian people?
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10-08-2023 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Yea I think they are too.

You guys are both doing it.

Since you wouldn’t call it a genocide, what would you call the Israeli treatment of Palestinian people?
Wow you seem awfully comfortable with genocide being committed against Jewish people. I wonder why…
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10-08-2023 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
Obviously trolling? Why was op banned again? I forget, lib mods on here can read minds. Carry on. Absolutely no hypocrisy here
OP was temporarily banned for posts that have since been deleted due to how inappropriate they were. Since you didn't see the posts, you're really not in a position to judge my decision.
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10-08-2023 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Yea I think they are too.

You guys are both doing it.

Since you wouldn’t call it a genocide, what would you call the Israeli treatment of Palestinian people?
Also not “you guys.”

I’m an American, not an Israeli.
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10-08-2023 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Read something that said 5500 Palestinians have been killed since 2007. Over same time period , 250 Israelis.


What does that say about the conflict?
It says that amping up the conflict is a bold play by the Palestinians. Let's see how it works out for them.
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10-08-2023 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed
To your other post, God doesn't exist. So I'll keep waiting.

To this post, two things:

1. I hate that we always need to compare things and do what about this or that. These situations are different in more ways than I could explain.

2. In an attempt to simplify it's like if Ukraine lost this war kept fighting 50 years after they lost... But I don't even think that's super enough to make the comparison. Because the religious elements completely change the goals. The Ukrainian people want to exist, they don't want to take Moscow. So if the invasion of Ukraine ended you would not have the same issues.

I don't know if I need to keep writing. I would ask why they're similar at all.
Well I believe ukraine destoyed the underwater oil pipeline. Its all about oil money and getting the usa to fight russia for them. They wanted war against russia. They knew the usa would back them. They are scared more awake people in the west see this and refuse to fund them. It could back fire on them. Russia is just defending their territory from nato expansion.

Ukraine poked the bear repeatedly. Look what happened. Palestine keeps poking the bear. And imo israel allowed them to attack so the west will fully unalive palestine.

Soon because of all the alliances and the evil usa empire ww3 will start. War is coming. Prepare yourself
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10-08-2023 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
Well I believe ukraine destoyed the underwater oil pipeline.
Of course they wanna drag us into this war it would be best for them.
It's hard to not believe that imo reading this:

"All the Evidence Points To Kyiv

According to the findings of the investigation thus far, a commando of divers and explosives specialists chartered the Andromeda almost exactly one year ago and sailed unnoticed from Warnemünde in northern Germany across the Baltic Sea before, on September 26, 2022, blowing holes in three pipes belonging to the natural gas pipelines Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2. It was a catastrophic assault on energy supplies, a singular act of sabotage – an attack on Germany."

https://www.spiegel.de/international...4-942d4a665778
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10-08-2023 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
Wow you seem awfully comfortable with genocide being committed against Jewish people. I wonder why…
I follow and practice the teachings of the “Jews for peace” on IG. They are very mad that Jews like to paint criticisms against the genocide as antisemitic.
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10-08-2023 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
It says that amping up the conflict is a bold play by the Palestinians. Let's see how it works out for them.
They literally believe many virgins await them. Instead of “you cant comprehend” how great it will be, they are promised virgins. They die for this lie. Some will make great Christians. Look at Pauls story

Actually as I get wiser and older it would not surprise me if they are given what they were promised. And then some sort of Jacobs Ladder plot unravels like the movie . As Death Cab said in a song “how could something so fair, be so cruel?”

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10-08-2023 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
I follow and practice the teachings of the “Jews for peace” on IG. They are very mad that Jews like to paint criticisms against the genocide as antisemitic.
I getting reading comprehension is hard, but try again.
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10-08-2023 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
I getting reading comprehension is hard, but try again.
Do you even know who you're talking to? The man scored in the top 2% on the ASVAB.
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10-08-2023 , 08:12 PM
I’m fairly sure I’m talking to an anti-Semitic idiot. But nice to know he has a fanboy.
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10-08-2023 , 08:12 PM
I haven't actually successfully read him, but Franz Fanon provides a fairly illuminative account for the relationship between colonialism and violence that situates what happened today fairly well, for those interested in the academic left.
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10-08-2023 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
I’m fairly sure I’m talking to an anti-Semitic idiot. But nice to know he has a fanboy.
Can confirm that you are at least half right.

Calling him dumb won't achieve much though, he takes people calling him dumb as evidence that he is a very smart person. And no, I am not joking.
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10-08-2023 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
I’m fairly sure I’m talking to an anti-Semitic idiot. But nice to know he has a fanboy.
you're talking to a Jewish person there who probably knows whats anti semitic or not.
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10-08-2023 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
Victor if youre ever in kc come have a beer with me. Trolls will troll. At least you have a heart
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