Over the years in this thread I've referred to the despotic nature of the House of Saud.

But here's the thing. There are no Saudi truthers here arguing the contrary. Find some truthers claiming the virtuous nature of SA and I'll start singing the praises of the murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi and talk about beheadings and not allowing women to drive, etc. I know a thing or two about Vietnam, Central America, and Korean wars also. I actually know more about them than the Mideast. But those will be very short conversations because no one defends them. Israel/Palestine is current and controversial. It has plenty of Israel truthers to argue with. Hence, one subject gets most of the vim and vigor.

Note also the inherent weakness of your argument. You are suggesting critics of Israel are antisemetic because they talk more about Israel than other places. But even if true, it in no way denies the genocidal facts of the current campaign. It's just a smear.

Chilling stuff

Is it anti-semitic to be sickened by this?

Yes, it’s fairly anti-semetic to take QNN at face value but not the NYTimes.

what about cnn?

Checked this out and CNN reported on it.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-...d945a92ad4a2ed

It's a different bus though. And some parts of that bus are grayed out. Picture is sus.

Kinda funny. The thing seems to be real, but that pic seems to be doctored. The license plate is erased because it's probably a bus from another country.

Israeli crimes require extensive documentation and affirmation. but if an employee of UNRWA posts something on a private channel that is suspect, then it is enough to justify starving thousands of people and to prove that Palestinians will do the holocaust if left unchecked.

its bullshit. I notice that you havent been back to eat crow about being wrong about the Columbia University chemical hate crime. maybe you should have learned your lesson on siding with corpus vile and the rest of these clowns over me.

Looks like detaining Hamas members.

Zero wrong with that, legit the point of this war.

I didn't take anyone's side in that, I just don't blindly put my faith in reporting from you or those Twitter accounts or corpus vile or the rest of the clowns and you did just post a picture with grey swipes all over stuff that identifies that bus.

It's really the obvious things that look the worst. Arguing about what happened in the few incidents which get talked about just distracts from that.

Stuff like this:

like I said, Israeli crimes require a lot of documentation and any alternate viewpoint must be thoroughly debunked before it is accepted. you are defaulting to the people who do no research and are never correct. you are defaulting to the position that I post misinformation when all of my cites have been proven correct.

I'm not keeping score so I don't know that that is true. And I don't default to people who don't do research. I don't expect you to have noticed how many times I've told mets that his NY Post is trash, but if you aren't going to follow posts that aren't about you, then you shouldn't generalize about them. I look up and try to verify or not stuff that people post all the time, not just stuff from you.

microbet, why are you not pushing back on this claim that those are Hamas members? like you pushed back on the claim that the Columbia terrorists were IDF members?

we have seen many incidences where civilians were arrested and tied up like this.

I've never even noticed gs3737, so I'm not really looking to get into a big conversation with him. But yeah, he has no idea who those people are. With the bus thing going on I don't even know if they are the same people in both pictures. Maybe some of them are in Ukraine.

gs, if you dont like Quds or cnn, how about an Israeli source?

You’re arguing with someone who claims there was no rape on 10/7.

We can all just make up whatever we want apparently.

ok fair enough. but they arent in Ukraine. I know that was a joke tho.

those look a lot like burial shrouds fwiw. Palestinian have been wearing them in recent days as that is the only clothing available and they are freezing. macabre if the same. well, macabre regardless.

This isn’t proof at all. It’s (allegedly) a couple of people saying stuff.

rape might have occurred. but not in the way the NYT reported it. and I think it was very unlikely that it was a coordinated part of the attack or a goal.

as crossnerd said, rape always occurs at war. so I am not going to disqualify that some it happened in isolated situations.

but even on that level there has been no credible evidence.

I know the picture of all the buildings bombed isn't sensational enough to post about back and forth for people, but it really tells a much better story than this other stuff. Gaza is being annihilated. It can be seen from space.

seems pretty conclusive that powerful people in the Israeli political establishment want settlements in Gaza. theres even videos!

A tiny group. Most don’t.

Of course since Hamas is committing genocide on the Jews, it’s totally reasonable to feel this way.

Hamas is not credible accused in the international court of committing genocide. Israel, however is on trial after the courts decided their action plausible constituted genocide.

facts simply dont agree with you.

This "tiny" group is what's in power. Not so tiny.

lol international court.

Hamas has said over and over and over again they want to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth.

That’s actual genocide, not your distorted version.