IDF soldiers literally attack a Jewish college student putting them in the hospital after days of agony but pointing it out is antisemitic.

why? well bc it makes Israel look bad. it puts Zionism in a bad light. and that is the new definition of antisemitism.

Explain.

What the source on this being done by IDF soldiers? (and yeah, I googled it and saw some people just say it's true without identifying the people by name or showing anything that indicates they are in the IDF)

eyewitnesses identified one of the guys.



the guy in blue with the hat is named Menajem Peres and he was actually on TV saying how he wanted to go back Israel to fight (ie do genocide) but I guess they didnt let him deploy.

also, its real funny these guys havent been identified given all the security and cameras on campus. how long do you think it would take to identify 3 people doing this at a pro-Israel rally? and it would not be left up to the victims to figure out who did it.

Ok. Not saying that's definitive of it being him or him being the person who did the thing, but "Possible ID" is certainly possible.

I don't think the leaders are willing to sacrifice themselves. They have minions for that

I am going to trust the people that were eyewitnesses and go to Columbia.

The word "trust" doesn't even really seem meaningful if you say you trust people you don't know. Hell, there are certainly police among the Pro-Palestinian protestors.

I understand the point you’re trying to make but being hyperbolic doesn’t help your credibility.

A friend of mine was once beaten on the street in Manhattan because he stopped and said something like ‘hey that’s not cool’ to men who were loudly repeating antisemitic tropes.

My childhood JCC was attacked with bomb threats and vandalized by racists.

Every Jewish person I know has stories like this, and they weren’t all perpetrated by Zionists. There is merit to claims of feeling unsafe existing as a Jew in this country. So please, dial it back a bit with the universal quantifiers.

Ty I was wondering

ofc there are police. they are patrolling the pro-peace people. and they are allowing thugs like that guy to do their terrorism.

ok pretend I said believe then

No washoe is a washoe winger. He washoes his way into threads and then ramps the washoeness all the way up to 11.

In the washoe universe, everything on the internet is 100% fact and should be immediately and uncritically accepted. Washoe gonna washoe.

If Hamas was replaced
If Israel was officially recognized as being allowed to exist
If that society was deradicalized

And that's all a THEM thing...

They could have total freedom as you understand it. Nobody would care. They could get all manner of additional land and whatever else your definition includes. The average Israeli would line up to hand it to them. Imagine the improvement in the quality of life for everyone? No more running to rocket shelters? That's definitely the dream.

Victor you are one of the TEXTBOOK antisemites in this thread. You need to at least proudly where your crown now. It just is what it is.

dont really care what genocide supporters think of me

It's a trick, we always use it.

All the things you list were given by the PLO. If that had resulted in "all manner of additional land" and a state, support for Hamas would have evaporated. But Oslo did not provide for a state or an end to the occupation. Both Labor and Likud have specified they weren't granting a state.

Does "all manner of additional land" mean a withdrawal of squatters from Area C? Because that's not on the table.

Stu the jews that are in area c have to leave right? No Jews are allowed in area a. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab but you want more areas where they don't allow jews. Sounds fair

Bill the withdrawal from Gaza was immediately met with the second Intifada, Gilad Shalit, the starts of tunnel warfare, and 140 suicide bombs on civilian positions (in just 3 years). Where do YOU see the part where 2 state got a fair chance after the withdrawal from Gaza? Because that's a fantasy.

We've done this exact dance over and over in this thread.

And yes it would be trivially simple (relative to much harder tasks) to remove settlers where a negotiation warranted it for the greater good. Know how I know? Because they did exactly that with Gaza and other Israeli settlers before. When TRUE peace with a willing participant is laid out, the settlers will be moved. Till now, no good faith counter-party to this has existed. If you'd like to see documentaries on the painful process that Israel already undetook to move settlers in the past, I'll happily link you. We're talking removing fellow Israelis by force who'd chained themselves to things. They did that.

your timeline is off. the withdrawal from Gaza happened at the end of the seocond intifada. shortly thereafter Hamas renounced suicide bombing.

everyone is an anti semite! who else? the mayans?