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10-08-2023 , 03:25 PM
I ask everyone to read my two linked mainstream articles on the Great March of Return. That was a non-violent series of protests resulting in the murder of dozens of Palestinians (approx. 8000 were shot). A months-long collection of atrocities.

Israel has cut off almost all electricity AND gas to Palestine. Destroying a population's basic needs, murdering its civilians, keeping them effectively imprisoned en masse, what else do you think is going to happen?

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Originally Posted by gs3737
The way they killed those IsraelisÂ…so cool!!

Wtf is wrong with you?
I like seeing the oppressed get one over on their oppressors. I'm guessing you're a big fan of world-spanning empires?

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Originally Posted by Trakk
Yeah, I donÂ’t usually like tone policing other peopleÂ’s posts, but nothing about this situation should be described as cool.
nah

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Originally Posted by corpus vile
They're murdering civilians and attacking Kibbutz's. You consider that cool? Contemptible comment.
Israel and its benefactor USA have been murdering civilians for however many decades... what is that they say? **** around and find out?

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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
If you think this story ends poorly for israel i have some news for you.
I don't think it will end poorly for Israel. Israel has billions more dollars than Palestine, perpetual pipeline of US arms, control over Gaza's power and gas, etc., etc. Palestine is a collection of impoverished and brutalized refugees. This is a story of brave and desperate rebels versus a ****ing Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader-style evil empire. Unfortunately, as this isn't a movie, the bad guys usually win.

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You probably are also one who relies on strength in numbers
What in the goddamn hell could this possibly mean? Israel has the world's most powerful superpower and almost all of the Western media behind it. Israel has the numbers. Palestine's extremely densely populated open-air prison isn't some advantage. LOL.
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10-08-2023 , 03:31 PM
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Get a better God. Perhaps a living one?
Yeah the superiority of the Jewish deity is clearly shown by how awesome it’s been historically for the Jews
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10-08-2023 , 03:41 PM
Honestly, if you replace the word cool with the word impressive, I wouldn’t even really disagree with you. You seem to be enjoying the deaths of actual people way too much. And even if you care nothing for Israeli deaths we both know an awful lot of Palestinians are going to die as a result of this. It’s not some video game where you get to “own” people.

Last edited by Rococo; 10-08-2023 at 03:42 PM. Reason: Deleted Karl's post
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10-08-2023 , 03:41 PM
I just deleted a bunch of pictures of dead people. I also deleted Karl's second attempt at celebrating aspects of this conflict as "cool", which can only have been trolling.

People obviously will be allowed to express views on both sides of this conflict, but I would ask everyone to do so respectfully.
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10-08-2023 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
Get a better God. Perhaps a living one?
There is no such thing as a "living God", weirdo. God (in all its various forms) is a fictional character that has been used to abuse, frighten, and pacify populations for all of recorded human history. More to the point, though, you do understand that Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same alleged deity, right?

Do us a favor and spend an hour or two learning the very basics of this situation before popping off another stream of idiocy. I mean, I learned that **** in like 4th grade. How embarrassing.
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10-08-2023 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I just deleted a bunch of pictures of dead people. I also deleted Karl's second attempt at celebrating aspects of this conflict as "cool", which can only have been trolling.

People obviously will be allowed to express views on both sides of this conflict, but I would ask everyone to do so respectfully.
It wasn't trolling whatsoever. It was an entirely genuine argument. Something I earnestly believe. An oppressed people got creative and used ancient technology in their desperate attempts to regain some measure of power for themselves. Awesome. It's SO cool, and it's gonna remain cool no matter how heavy-handed your modding gets. Me saying that is not disrespectful. I mean, disrespectful to whom, some IDF child-murderers that might stumble upon a Western gambling forum? Damn, I guess they'll have to soothe their feelings of disrespect with their billions in aid from military powers. I feel for them.

"can only have been trolling". How moronic.
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10-08-2023 , 04:01 PM
If that wasn’t trolling then he should be banned for being a sociopath.
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10-08-2023 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I just deleted a bunch of pictures of dead people. I also deleted Karl's second attempt at celebrating aspects of this conflict as "cool", which can only have been trolling.

People obviously will be allowed to express views on both sides of this conflict, but I would ask everyone to do so respectfully.
Thank you
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10-08-2023 , 04:06 PM
I see that the right-wing Democrats ITT are rather upset that the good side had a victory over the bad side.
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10-08-2023 , 04:07 PM
Goodies and baddies now? Jasus wept.
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10-08-2023 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
If that wasn’t trolling then he should be banned for being a sociopath.
I’m pretty sure he is being sincere, and is indeed a sociopath.
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10-08-2023 , 04:11 PM
I mean, I'm still awaiting some kind of argument against my points ITT. All I see is these one-liner drive-by quips. Those are the content-less troll posts that should be deleted.

I get it's gonna be hard to read about the Great March of Return and be like, "ok, this is my side, how am I gonna justify this one, oof", but at least one of you can sack up and try, right? I'm pretty much the only one providing any kind of knowledge and analysis here.
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10-08-2023 , 04:13 PM
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Gaza Plunges Further Into Darkness As Israel Cuts Power to War-Torn Strip
.... which powers Gaza's drinking water supply, sewage pumps, etc. in one of the most densely populated areas in the world.

Unless the Palestinians come up with a way to unconditionally surrender, this might end up biblically horrible.
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10-08-2023 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakk
I’m pretty sure he is being sincere, and is indeed a sociopath.
Sociopaths, by definition, are unable to feel the massive amounts of empathy I have for the Palestinian people, the Iraqi people my nation blew up by the hundreds of thousands, and the other oppressed people of the world.

I'm the opposite of a sociopath. I care very deeply.
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10-08-2023 , 04:18 PM
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.... which powers Gaza's drinking water supply, sewage pumps, etc. in one of the most densely populated areas in the world.

Unless the Palestinians come up with a way to unconditionally surrender, this might end up biblically horrible.
It's genocide. Point blank. And I also suspect it's gonna end up quite badly for the Palestinians. I'm a poker player in America, all I can do is root for them...
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10-08-2023 , 04:20 PM
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If that wasn’t trolling then he should be banned for being a sociopath.
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You're a scumbag.
Shocking which side the Ukraine crew is on here
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10-08-2023 , 04:27 PM
Read something that said 5500 Palestinians have been killed since 2007. Over same time period , 250 Israelis.


What does that say about the conflict?
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10-08-2023 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Read something that said 5500 Palestinians have been killed since 2007. Over same time period , 250 Israelis.


What does that say about the conflict?
That 'never again' actually means 'never again for us'.
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10-08-2023 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Shocking which side the Ukraine crew is on here
Oh piss off victor, and give your tiresome schtick a rest for five whole minutes.
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10-08-2023 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx
I mean, I'm still awaiting some kind of argument against my points ITT. All I see is these one-liner drive-by quips. Those are the content-less troll posts that should be deleted.

I get it's gonna be hard to read about the Great March of Return and be like, "ok, this is my side, how am I gonna justify this one, oof", but at least one of you can sack up and try, right? I'm pretty much the only one providing any kind of knowledge and analysis here.
You actually need an argument against your jubilation at the wholesale slaughter of civilians in a kibbutz? Your lack of self awareness is stunning. And no, I don;t want to hear about your whataboutism on how evil the Israelis are either, we get enough of that crap from Victor, so don't bother, just a heads up in advance.
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10-08-2023 , 04:48 PM
Imho this damn conflict will never end till religious bigot in power will stop using religious text for determining borders.

And since extremist can’t negotiate and be trusted , has long u have them in power nothing can be solve .
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10-08-2023 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Israel could just leave. then no more deaths.
I don't think this ends Palestinian desire to reclaim what they see as their homeland. Afaik both sides won't quit and have deeply religious claims to territory.
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10-08-2023 , 04:57 PM
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I don't think this ends Palestinian desire to reclaim what they see as their homeland. Afaik both sides won't quit and have deeply religious claims to territory.
Ok Russia should leave. But Israel should stay. American liberals folks. Don't we love them?
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10-08-2023 , 04:59 PM
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I don't think this ends Palestinian desire to reclaim what they see as their homeland. Afaik both sides won't quit and have deeply religious claims to territory.
I think we might have stumbled upon the root of the problem.

I am truly amazed that in the 21st century seemingly compos mentis people still argue, fight, and kill one another over whose imaginary friend and book of fairy tales is better.
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10-08-2023 , 05:04 PM
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Israel could just leave. then no more deaths.
Why don’t all Israelis just kill themselves? Make it easier for everyone.
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