The rockets have payloads as low as 35kg and that certainly doesn't kill people in shelters or knock buildings down.

They've dug up a ton of archeological evidence from Jews and Christians to show the were in the West Bank long ago

I wonder how much this guy suffers



seems hes only mad that he wasnt able to do more executions and rape since the 40s.

It has been 4-5 generations and counting. What is the threshold in your estimation where we can say that was distant enough history and move on?

Given how many of them land in Gaza (up to 20% is an estimate I read once), the casualty rate of Palestinians from Palestinian rockets could easily be 100x or more the Israeli casualty number.

Cool, I don’t care. If the Seminole tribe started bombing Cuban-American neighborhoods in Florida and telling them to leave because of some 5,000 year-old artifacts, everyone would think that’s deranged. At some point the people who’ve lived there all their lives have a right to be there.

well according to the Israelis, you can hold onto anything from Abraham's times.

It really wasn't that long ago. Its not like something this happened in prehistory and is disputed. The Arab colonizers didn't conquer this land until the 600s.

It is just a weird blind spot where progressives refuse to acknowledge this inconvenient aspect of recent history (not even really history, as Arab Muslims are still active in violent, genocidal colonization).

Muslim Arabs for their part just dont give a ****. They are extremely tribal and give zero consideration for anyone that isn't one of them (At least at the state level). It is their way or the highway. At some points in history they allowed non Arab Muslims to coexist under their dominance, but it was always a very clear Apartheid situation where there was no mistake you were a second-class human.

And once they built a mosque on top of your church or temple (a common practice), no matter how long it was a holy spot for you or how important, than as far as they are concerned it is now their holy land for the rest of eternity, and any argument otherwise is Islamophobia.

Are you talking about Israel and Israelis?

You know the bible is not true? Jews only go back about 3200 years and human settlement in the Levant goes back almost as long as there have been humans - like 160000 years. All kinds of people have homeland in that area if you go by some ancestor of theirs living there for some time.

No No Israelil are "white colonizers " so they don't count

There is archeological evidence that a lot of thy Bible is true?

Regardless I'm not getting your point

It's not like the Palestinians are descedants of the philistines like people used to want to believe

On the one hand 75 years is too long ago to matter, but on the other hand you care so much about what happened 1500 years ago.

Christians have invaded the ME with huge invasions twice in my lifetime. I can't remember the last time the Islamic hordes invaded their holy land on the Iberian Peninsula.

Point is Jewish people, or most anyway, have some ancestors who lived in what is now Israel for some time in the past and that that is true for most people on Earth.

I don't think there's any doubt that an average Palestinian has more and more recent ancestry (like last 1000 years) in that area than an average Ashkenazi Jew.

Not that I care. I'm just arguing whatever point anyone is making with "homeland". As far as I'm concerned the idea that people aren't entitled to live and live free where they were born is abhorrent. That goes for Palestinians and Israelis and even little settler babies in the West Bank. It's got nothing to do with homelands. It's just not being racist or xenophobic.

Of course you think this

The Palestinians and Israelis are nearly genetically identical, these people have both been living in the region since deep in human prehistory. Just ludicrous to pretend one group belongs and the other doesn’t because you found some pottery shards and Bible verses.

I thought the thread consensus was that this is white colonist Israel in a racist war against brown people

Maybe i take the trolls' posts too seriously

A good chunk of ones that get through are allowed to go through do to estimated landing area not likely to have high casualties

Who said this? What are you even talking about? If this is a response to me, then don't put words in my mouth.

It was pointless or sightless or brainless

Not you

Yes that's what i was trying to say but he didn't believe me

many people have said this. its a common theme in the whole debate. and ofc it is a colonialist project. thats not really debatable. is it white? well it seems that the Ashkenazi from Europe had strong influence in the early days and now that influence is diffused amongst other types of settlers from Africa and the Middle East.

is Netanyahu white? well hes from America but he claims to be Sephardic.

who cares if they are white?

This is London. It is not even uncommon to see scenes like this throughout Britain. I guarantee if Christians or Jews flexed like this in the streets of a major city in an Muslim country they would consider it an invasion. I'll leave it up to the viewer to decide whether it should count the same the other way or not.

Regardless, I dont subscribe to the far left colonizer narrative. But it takes a special kind of historical ignorance and obstinance to subscribe to such an orthodoxy and still decide the Muslim Arabs are victims in the colonizer game.

I proved my case that the rockets would not end Israel by the damage done by rockets before the Iron Dome. That's what's relevant.