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10-08-2023 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
You said people.

People change religions btw.


I think it should be noted that Iran is using Palestine to hurt Israel
I assure you that skin color has very little to do with the roots of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
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10-08-2023 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wazz
What are your hopes and expectations from this thread?
Wow. So it begins. Lol. Nice question loool
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10-08-2023 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Sometimes it's hard to tell, Vic, you call everyone liberals
Lol. This viewpoint is whats wrong with politics these days
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10-08-2023 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I assure you that skin color has very little to do with the roots of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
What’re the roots?
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10-08-2023 , 01:57 PM
I think an important aspect of situations like this involve your opinion regarding the difference between accepting collateral deaths of civilians when pursuing an objective and actually NEEDING those deaths. The gut reaction of most western countries is to think there is a big difference. If 100 innocent civilians die because of an operation but the perpetuators are obviously legitimately sad about it (and maybe even prevented many deaths by warning people beforehand) westerners are not as appalled as they are by operations that require the same number (or fewer) innocent deaths to help achieving their objective. This in spite of the fact that those that died do not care if their killers wanted them dead. The problem for the killers though is that they don't realize that even if there is little logic to considering one of the actions much more justifiable, many people do. Furthermore, those who do consider the one action much worse, stop considering the other aspects of the dispute and will gravitate to the side that don't like innocent civilian deaths even if they are, in other ways, in the wrong.
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10-08-2023 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
You think lots of pale-skinned people were living in Jerusalem thousands of years ago?
According to Sunday school, there were.
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10-08-2023 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx
The Great March of Return:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E...order_protests

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...ests-explained

tl;dr: in 2018, unarmed Palestinian protestors walked up to Israel's military fences as an organized protest and were murdered by the dozens and injured by the hundreds.

Most people are going to frame this as yet another instance of one nation warring with another. It's not. It's a fight of a nation of prison wardens against their prisoners.

Israel appears to be getting owned. Palestinian fighters are making ongoing progress into Israel. They even had a paragliding division fly pretty deep into Israel! That's some cool ****.
They're murdering civilians and attacking Kibbutz's. You consider that cool? Contemptible comment.
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10-08-2023 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
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Knock it off. We know people are being murdered, you don't need to heap further indignity upon them by plastering their bodies on social media to score internet points in a debate. Show some decorum and decency. Tf is wrong with you?
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10-08-2023 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Knock it off. We know people are being murdered, you don't need to heap further indignity upon them by plastering their bodies on social media to score internet points in a debate. Show some decorum and decency. Tf is wrong with you?
I agree. No place for that. People are dying here. It’s nothing to be celebrated
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10-08-2023 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
Lol. This viewpoint is whats wrong with politics these days
Objective reality is the problem? I guess if you are a Dem that desperately has the need to feel superior to Repubs then reality surely gets in the way.
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10-08-2023 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I think an important aspect of situations like this involve your opinion regarding the difference between accepting collateral deaths of civilians when pursuing an objective and actually NEEDING those deaths. The gut reaction of most western countries is to think there is a big difference. If 100 innocent civilians die because of an operation but the perpetuators are obviously legitimately sad about it (and maybe even prevented many deaths by warning people beforehand) westerners are not as appalled as they are by operations that require the same number (or fewer) innocent deaths to help achieving their objective. This in spite of the fact that those that died do not care if their killers wanted them dead. The problem for the killers though is that they don't realize that even if there is little logic to considering one of the actions much more justifiable, many people do. Furthermore, those who do consider the one action much worse, stop considering the other aspects of the dispute and will gravitate to the side that don't like innocent civilian deaths even if they are, in other ways, in the wrong.
Terrorists (and it's hard to consider Hamas as anything but terrorists, because their operations make no sense at all in conventional military terms) essentially work by provoking retaliation, which they think provides an ongoing pretext for their preferred activity of killing people. They don't have any other reason for being.
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10-08-2023 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
What’re the roots?
I already told you above.
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10-08-2023 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Terrorists (and it's hard to consider Hamas as anything but terrorists, because their operations make no sense at all in conventional military terms) essentially work by provoking retaliation, which they think provides an ongoing pretext for their preferred activity of killing people. They don't have any other reason for being.
Watch it or youll get banned
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10-08-2023 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
this will be an interesting forum experiment to see how long this dude lasts here. with the calling for the deaths of tens of thousands of people, and the supremacy stuff..
Where
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10-08-2023 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Let’s start with a timeline as to how we got here


What year should we start at?
Start with the bible and then start of islam

Last edited by Check_Why322; 10-08-2023 at 03:07 PM.
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10-08-2023 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Well, consider yourself censored. It is not at all appropriate (and not tolerated in this form) to call for the death of others or state that you feel some people are more valuable than others in the way that you did.

I'd lock this thread if I could remember how. It's a good topic but not with you.
You aren’t allowed to pick sides in war?
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10-08-2023 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx
The Great March of Return:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E...order_protests

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...ests-explained

tl;dr: in 2018, unarmed Palestinian protestors walked up to Israel's military fences as an organized protest and were murdered by the dozens and injured by the hundreds.

Most people are going to frame this as yet another instance of one nation warring with another. It's not. It's a fight of a nation of prison wardens against their prisoners.

Israel appears to be getting owned. Palestinian fighters are making ongoing progress into Israel. They even had a paragliding division fly pretty deep into Israel! That's some cool ****.
If you think this story ends poorly for israel i have some news for you. You probably are also one who relies on strength in numbers
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10-08-2023 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
The way they killed those Israelis…so cool!!

Wtf is wrong with you?
Notice how he isnt banned. The hypocrisy amongst the left will nevrr cease to amaze
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10-08-2023 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Let’s do that timeline!

So far during the conflict Israel has killed about 6k Palestinians and 600 Israelis have died. This is over past 50-70 years.


What does this number show us??
Get a better God. Perhaps a living one?
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10-08-2023 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Curious if the people mad about Israeli deaths are mad about Palestinian ones?
No. Its called war
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10-08-2023 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_Why322
No. Its called war
What’s it called when the Palestinians do it?
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10-08-2023 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Actually military analysis would be how can we solve this problem with peace
Some king must and will return
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10-08-2023 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I assure you that skin color has very little to do with the roots of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Why do you keep bringing it up then
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10-08-2023 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
What’re the roots?
God vs non gods
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10-08-2023 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
What’s it called when the Palestinians do it?
War. Lets do this already
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