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Oh. I see that's it's just so, eh? That's one hell of a disingenuous way to excuse state-sponsored extermination of an entire people.

Israel has all but eliminated any left-wing influence in its government. To be in Israeli government you must be either right, far-right, ultra-right, or a few Arab tokens in the Knesset so Israel can pretend they're a functioning democracy. Something tells me right-wing Zionists would no longer be cool (they're not already, according to their own statements, but just for argument) with a two-state solution after about... a week?

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10-12-2023 , 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx

Oh. I see that's it's just so, eh? That's one hell of a disingenuous way to excuse state-sponsored extermination of an entire people.

Palestinian population has doubled in the last 30 years. It is Hamas who has it in their charter to exterminate Israel.

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10-12-2023 , 12:03 PM

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Just saw the dead baby photos from Kfar Aza. Guess that's all the sleep I'll get for a while. You can't unsee that.

i agree. anyone killing children is pretty evil.

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10-12-2023 , 12:03 PM

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Palestinian population has doubled in the last 30 years. It is Hamas who has it in their charter to exterminate Israel.

I didn't say Israel was GOOD at it. They have yet to figure out how to stop the Palestinians from breeding. You got me. Anyway, let me know if you want a couple dozen more instances of Israel committing genocide on an oppressed population.

(extermination is the final step, Israel is not there yet, my most profound apologies for inaccurate language in describing the genocidal government of Israel)

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10-12-2023 , 12:03 PM

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Not really behind your wish.... but I have done the deed.

I deleted the rest of this post because it was way over that Line-in-the-Sand as far as racist comments allowed on 2+2.

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10-12-2023 , 12:06 PM

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How do you kill babies with your actual hands though? I know throughout history people have found a way. Be it the 1 child rule in China or other. I don't understand how you hold it in your hands and murder it. How do you summon that ability to take it out of the crib and do that. I just want to understand it I guess.

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10-12-2023 , 12:07 PM

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Palestinian population has doubled in the last 30 years. It is Hamas who has it in their charter to exterminate Israel.

What else is new?

You keep telling us the same thing since
forever.

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10-12-2023 , 12:10 PM

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In order to save bullets during the Cambodian genocide, they would grab children/babies by their feet and whack them against a tree. History never sides with these types of folks. Killing children is a cowardly move to say the least

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10-12-2023 , 12:11 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization

If you view another human as no longer fully human, and closer to that of a cow or pig, it becomes much easier to slaughter them, much in the way we kill said animals by the thousands without even blinking. This occurs in any hot war of any significant scale of which I'm aware.

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10-12-2023 , 12:13 PM

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Cows and pigs are delicious!

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10-12-2023 , 12:13 PM

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All "folks" are "these types of folks". It's part of the human condition. Not sure if you're aware, but countless American and western troops have committed such atrocities.

You a big fan of the US military, Mr. George Washington AR-15? Your guys did this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

Last edited by Karl_TheOG_Marx; 10-12-2023 at 12:17 PM. Reason: I guess it's AR-15 and AK-47. Who gives a ****, guns suck.

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10-12-2023 , 12:15 PM

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"Killing children is a cowardly move!" he says, as he simultaneously supports Western military that has done exactly that by the thousands.

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10-12-2023 , 12:18 PM

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I just see my therapy bills going up and up, lol. I just don't understand that version of the world.

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10-12-2023 , 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx

All "folks" are "these types of folks". It's part of the human condition. Not sure if you're aware, but countless American and western troops have committed such atrocities.

You a big fan of the US military, Mr. George Washington AR-47? Your guys did this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

History doesn't really side with the US re: the Vietnam war.

Ole George is holding an AR-15 modern sporting rifle. You are combining it with an AK-47. Two different platforms from two different countries and two different calibers. This post proves you have no idea what you are talking about

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10-12-2023 , 12:20 PM

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History doesn't really side with the US re: the Vietnam war.

That's putting it lightly.

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Ole George is holding an AR-15 modern sporting rifle. You are combining it with an AK-47. Two different platforms from two different countries and two different calibers. This post proves you have no idea what you are talking about

I realized my mistake and fixed it before you even made this post. I do have little knowledge of various murder machines, I happily admit. You've already proven you know nothing about US atrocities, which seems far more important.

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10-12-2023 , 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by washoe

What else is new?

You keep telling us the same thing since
forever.

And I will continue to do so as long as people keep falsely claiming Israel is trying to exterminate Palestinians.

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10-12-2023 , 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx

That's putting it lightly.

I realized my mistake and fixed it before you even made this post. I do have little knowledge of various murder machines, I happily admit. You've already proven you know nothing about US atrocities, which seems far more important.

You need to have a murderer behind the gun before it becomes a "murder machine"

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10-12-2023 , 12:33 PM

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And I will continue to do so as long as people keep falsely claiming Israel is trying to exterminate Palestinians.

"Genocide" is a more accurate word, although of course Israel WOULD eliminate all Palestinians from the area if they could (without risking continued perma-support from USA). Unless you want to tell me Bibi and the rest of the ultra-right maniacs just love that proposed two-state solution and would never blow up a Palestinian school again!

Let's make a deal. I apologize for somewhat inaccurate language, and you apologize for supporting that powerful terrorist organization known as the IDF/Israel military-industrial complex.

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10-12-2023 , 12:34 PM

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“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” —Nietzsche

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10-12-2023 , 12:35 PM

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You need to have a murderer behind the gun before it becomes a "murder machine"

And America trains those murderers by the tens of thousands.

Yes, a gun doesn't fire itself. Oooh, got 'em!

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10-12-2023 , 12:36 PM

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And America trains those murderers by the tens of thousands.

Yes, a gun doesn't fire itself. Oooh, got 'em!

Yes, a soldier doesn't train himself. Oooh, got 'em!

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10-12-2023 , 12:49 PM

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Hmm, so it sounds like we agree that the US military is a force of thousands of trained murderers and committers of atrocities. That's pretty cool.

I hope we can further agree that taking super powerful weapons out of the hands of murderers is likely to lead to fewer murders. I guess that's step 2!

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10-12-2023 , 12:59 PM

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Stop this line of discussion please immediately. Doesn't belong ITT

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10-12-2023 , 01:10 PM

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The support of Israel by the US' military-industrial complex seems directly relevant to the topic of the thread. Where else do you think they're getting these insane weapons from? I guess focusing on the evil of the US military ITSELF is kind of a tangent...

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