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07-31-2024 , 11:26 AM
IRI proxies is such a racist term
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07-31-2024 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
Haniyeh, as absurd as it sounds, was a relative moderate... why assassinate him?
You mean the guy who was seen on video, celebrating Oct 7th? Very moderate indeed. Can't think of a reason why a Hamas leader celebrating the slaughter of civilians would need to be assassinated.

True brain teaser this one.

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Originally Posted by Victor
IRI proxies is such a racist term
Why?
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07-31-2024 , 12:18 PM


Israel continues to kill the witnesses and chroniclers of their (plausible) genocide in a futile attempt to hide their crimes.
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07-31-2024 , 12:25 PM
oh man they might've got another one

this time its the guy who was in charge of iran's direct attack on israel a few months back

what a ****ing bad day to be a supporter of the destruction of israel and the execution, rape and/or forced deportation of its jewish inhabitants!
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07-31-2024 , 12:48 PM
And also a great week for supporters of an apartheid state whose representatives mass rape Palestinian prisoners.
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07-31-2024 , 12:53 PM
talking of rape, there was another account recently published directly from an oct 7 rape victim. i wont bother posting a link here as the source is jewish
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07-31-2024 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Yeah, I agree, it's unlikely. Still, seems strange that nothing has come out about it yet. Israel hasn't claimed it as theirs, we haven't seen a destroyed building or anything.
It’s not strange at all if this was Mossad on the ground. I haven’t really seen many details about the attack but it doesn’t really benefit Israel much to openly claim the attack. The parties who the message is intended for don’t need any further clarification. Stay in Qatar, the tunnels or caves or be dealt with. Israel said they were going after the entirety of Hamas leadership so in a way they already did claim the attack.

Wasn’t Qatar starting to get tired of hosting Hamas leadership? Looks like getting kicked out of Qatar is now a death sentence for them.

Seems like the 3rd assassination might be fake news. still a terrible day for the Hamas groupies.
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07-31-2024 , 01:01 PM
my money would defo be on israel, but could also be hamas on hamas action

you often see internal power struggles and squabbles when a regime is creaking and on its last legs, and plus i expect it would be relatively straightforward for a hamas bigwig rival of the guy to arrange an assassination on iranian soil given the master/puppet relationship iran has with hamas
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07-31-2024 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
Haniyeh, as absurd as it sounds, was a relative moderate... why assassinate him?

some of you really need to wrap your heads around the fact that netanyahu and his ilk are an enemy of peace. he wants a big middle east war because he thinks usa#1 will come in and save his ass like usual, and doesn't think or care that israel will also be destroyed in the process. maybe because it's already imploding, currently over the right to rape and torture.
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07-31-2024 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
some of you really need to wrap your heads around the fact that netanyahu and his ilk are an enemy of peace. he wants a big middle east war because he thinks usa#1 will come in and save his ass like usual, and doesn't think or care that israel will also be destroyed in the process. maybe because it's already imploding, currently over the right to rape and torture.
war is peace
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07-31-2024 , 02:15 PM
Also the longer he stays in power the less chance there is of him facing jail time for corruption, and to stay in power he has to keep the extremists in his government happy ie most of it.
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07-31-2024 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DoyleBrunsonFan
It’s not strange at all if this was Mossad on the ground.
This would also be strange.
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07-31-2024 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
Haniyeh, as absurd as it sounds, was a relative moderate... why assassinate him?
A 'moderate' who refused to recognise Israel, ever, and praised Bin Laden as a 'holy warrior' and jubilantly celebrated the crimes of Oct 7... I don't think so. The Israelis are entitled to kill Hamas leaders if they want, given the provocation offered. Killing him in Tehran also sent a message to the mullahs, who sponsor Hezbollah as well as Hamas, that they are not out of reach.

It might be better if Israel spent more time killing Hamas leaders and not so much time killing the general population of Gaza, but it looks as though Israel's rulers positively want to diminish the population of Gaza, which isn't a lawful aim. Given that Netanyahu is subject to an ICC arrest warrant, just as Haniyeh was, this may complicate the usual support that the US offers Israel.
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07-31-2024 , 02:52 PM
not recognising Israel is a death sentence. I wonder if liberals understand how insane they sound.
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07-31-2024 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
This would also be strange.
How so?

The divide between Iranian leadership and the general populace would make getting in and out of the country a cake walk if it wasn’t already.
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07-31-2024 , 03:10 PM
I wonder if any of the 10s of thousands of children killed "recognized Israel." I am thinking they did not so I guess its all good amirite.
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07-31-2024 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DoyleBrunsonFan
How so?

The divide between Iranian leadership and the general populace would make getting in and out of the country a cake walk if it wasn’t already.
Iranians may hate their leaders but they also hate Israel.
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07-31-2024 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
A 'moderate' who refused to recognise Israel, ever, and praised Bin Laden as a 'holy warrior' and jubilantly celebrated the crimes of Oct 7... I don't think so. The Israelis are entitled to kill Hamas leaders if they want, given the provocation offered. Killing him in Tehran also sent a message to the mullahs, who sponsor Hezbollah as well as Hamas, that they are not out of reach.

It might be better if Israel spent more time killing Hamas leaders and not so much time killing the general population of Gaza, but it looks as though Israel's rulers positively want to diminish the population of Gaza, which isn't a lawful aim. Given that Netanyahu is subject to an ICC arrest warrant, just as Haniyeh was, this may complicate the usual support that the US offers Israel.
so you think they're entitled to kill israels leaders if they want? Maybe concentrate on that more?
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07-31-2024 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubble_Balls
Iranians may hate their leaders but they also hate Israel.
Undoubtedly. I don’t think it’s a likely scenario but it wouldn’t be the first time enemies worked together to achieve a common short term goal.
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07-31-2024 , 03:20 PM
It's a fairly likely scenario. Netanyahu is working hard on making it so.
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07-31-2024 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
so you think they're entitled to kill israels leaders if they want? Maybe concentrate on that more?
what do you think they have been trying to achieve all this time? Either way, it would be “better” than going after music festivals and soccer fields full of kids.

Not sure what you’re trying to say in your second post. I think you’ve confused what I was responding to. I agree with you that Bibi has not been ideal for Israel, especially politically. However, I don’t think he has any aims at winning over the Iranian’s hearts.

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07-31-2024 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
Haniyeh, as absurd as it sounds, was a relative moderate... why assassinate him?
He was killed *because* he's a moderate.
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07-31-2024 , 03:37 PM
Lol.

I hope we get to hear more about this theory.
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07-31-2024 , 03:41 PM
moderate leaders of terrorist organisations itt
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07-31-2024 , 03:42 PM
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Iranians may hate their leaders but they also hate Israel.
Americans hate their leaders
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