I'm impressed you managed to go one whole post without mentioning dead children, the Nazis or the Warsaw ghetto.

Ill just call it genocide

I think both people were native to all of the land which is why they did the partition plan in the first place

Trans Jordan was already given to the native people

Gaza can be Palestinian land if the wars stopped. I've never been against a 2c state solution

Yeah I wonder why you use that particular term. You love your not so veiled little digs at Jewish people, don't you? Your lack of self awareness is hilariously pathetic.

The difference between it being antisemitic and it meaning that Victor is an antisemite is something. For one, it's not relevant that *you* know Mets is Jewish. It's relevant whether or not Victor knows it. But, also, I don't think Victor understands. I don't think most American Gentiles really understand this point.

I wouldn't say I'm really personally offended, because I don't really give enough of a **** what people type in these word rectangles to be offended, but yeah, I think it is offensive to call Jews Nazis or talk about concentration camps or really to call anyone Nazis if they aren't actually self-identifying Nazis/neo-Nazis. But, Victor knows I'm Jewish for sure and I'm sure he's not trying to offend me. And I know he's also friendly with another poster here who has grandparents who were in a concentration camp and I don't think Victor has really thought about how calling Jews Nazis might seem to him. But, he probably will think about it now.

No

We don't even speak his Hebrew name when not praying

Thank you for trying to teach me my religion

He assumed I was a Zionist Jew - which he somehow managed to make sound like an insult- for supporting Israel's right to exist, even though there's plenty of Zionists who aren't Jewish. He definitely has issues with Jews as far as I'm concerned.

He seems very aware

Well, you're not right. I am. As usual.

"Judaism does not prohibit writing the Name of God per se; it prohibits only erasing or defacing a Name of God. However, observant Jews avoid writing any Name of God casually because of the risk that the written Name might later be defaced, obliterated or destroyed accidentally or by one who does not know better."

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...ame%20of%20God.

Why do we say hashem

Why in Hebrew besides the Torah do we not even write out adonai

Both of us can be right

But i don't care

I'm not sure if he's aware how he comes across as to others. I think he considers himself clever with his sly digs but doesn't actually realise that people have sussed him in no time.

You don't write adonia for the same reason. It's not to be erased. You can write it, but you need to be careful where you do and most places are not really safe.

It's just a different thing than taking the Lord's name in vain, which I don't think you are supposed to do even if you write it like "G-d".

theres nothing meant to be sly.

saw a post that i liked that said something to the effect of "when the time comes where it's safe for anyone and everyone to be critical about this, everyone will say they were against the razing of Gaza."

maybe if the West is completely overthrown and rehauled.

I mean, that’s kind of the point. It’s used in a nonsensical way.

But it's how it's used

Antisemitic means Anti Jewish regardless of what it would mean if you broke down the word

So what's your point

I believe this. You're calling jews nazis because you don't like them

My point is the word is being used incorrectly and that’s a bit silly. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.

I think not called Jews Nazis, or Nazi commanders, or Warsaw Ghetto stuff, is a pretty good starting point for intellectually honest discussions that may actually lead to dialogue and understanding.

If we start tossing around Arab tropes it would be a disaster in here. Saying "Hamas is X" is fair play for me. I don't think any of us ever say "all Arabs are Y" or "all Palestinians are Z". And I'd be very ashamed to see that behaviour.

At the end of the day it comes down to what the point of discussing this even is. Bringing us all closer to a mutual understanding, or the other way.

Like tropes about how Arab neighborhoods are dangerous? Yes, we should avoid that.

right. Im not calling "Jews" anything. I am comparing Israel and its actions, and the people who support such actions, to Nazis.

I dont think the Jewish people, as a group are any more predisposed to this stuff than any other group. We all know that Whites, Blacks, Arabs, Indians have all engaged in genocide at one point in time or another. Ask Dunyain.

However, rather than sitting back and accepting it or worse justifying it, I think its better to be critical.

And there clearly is something inherent to the state of Israel that makes them engage in these crimes. Their leaders will tell you that themselves. Its not bc they are Jewish thought, at least imo.

Things I've learned from this thread: Even anti Semites have a sense of PR via trite disclaimers...

At some point you'll have the recognize that the west will not be overthrown. The solutions will come within the existing framework.

well thats why I think his post will not happen.