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10-07-2023 , 06:17 PM

J.E.C

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Nice for this thread to get started by someone that is clearly impartial

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10-07-2023 , 06:35 PM

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Nice for this thread to get started by someone that is clearly impartial

Just trying to get the conversation started buddy.

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10-07-2023 , 07:17 PM

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What are your hopes and expectations from this thread?

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10-07-2023 , 07:39 PM

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What are your hopes and expectations from this thread?

That the Pro Israel and Pro Palestinian voices can exchange dialogue and share current events and updates on the war and have mutually respectful discussions where both sides are illuminated.

More importantly, a huge war just broke out. This is a politics subforum. It is insane censorship to not have a thread on this subject.

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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10-07-2023 , 07:43 PM

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It is insane censorship to not have a thread on this subject.

Do you have access to a dictionary?

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10-07-2023 , 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sickhuman

... and have mutually respectful discussions where both sides are illuminated.

You've come to the right place, this is exactly what we do around here.

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10-07-2023 , 07:52 PM

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Do you have access to a dictionary?

I am not as bright as you are clearly, please illuminate me.

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10-07-2023 , 07:54 PM

d2_e4

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I am not as bright as you are clearly, please illuminate me.

He's saying that nobody was censoring anything, as evidenced by the fact that this thread exists.

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10-07-2023 , 07:57 PM

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What do you think censorship means? Or, what do you think it means to censor someone, or be censored?

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10-07-2023 , 07:57 PM

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He's saying that nobody was censoring anything, as evidenced by the fact that this thread exists.

Ah okay thank you. His point remains valid as long as this thread and mine and Victor and the more right wing voices are not silenced.

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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10-07-2023 , 08:01 PM

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What do you think censorship means? Or, what do you think it means to censor someone, or be censored?

Censorship is the silencing of unpopular opinions.

As an example, Reddit would ban me and my thread if I discussed Race and Intelligence too honestly, or had unfavorable opinions on Trans athletes. I imagine a Pro Putin thread on here would be deleted as well.

These would be examples of censorship, as I understand it.

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10-07-2023 , 08:02 PM

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Well **** me sideways

You know this is the sort of thing you're not supposed to say out loud?

I have always been transparent to a fault. Perhaps this is why I am so wary of censorship.

Please do not weaponize my transparency against me.

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10-07-2023 , 08:05 PM

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Please do not weaponize my transparency against me.

I don't think I have to

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10-07-2023 , 08:19 PM

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Ah okay thank you. His point remains valid as long as this thread and mine and Victor and the more right wing voices are not silenced.

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

Who you calling right wing?

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10-07-2023 , 08:25 PM

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Who you calling right wing?

Rightwing was a poor choice of words.

Non Uniparty viewpoints I should say.

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10-07-2023 , 08:32 PM

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Who you calling right wing?

Sometimes it's hard to tell, Vic, you call everyone liberals

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10-07-2023 , 08:36 PM

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Who you calling right wing?

Oh, the ironing.

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10-07-2023 , 08:38 PM

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this will be an interesting forum experiment to see how long this dude lasts here. with the calling for the deaths of tens of thousands of people, and the supremacy stuff..

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10-07-2023 , 08:44 PM

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I have always been transparent to a fault. Perhaps this is why I am so wary of censorship.

Please do not weaponize my transparency against me.

Lol. "I say a lot of massively offensive stuff, but that's just transparency, yo."

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10-07-2023 , 08:47 PM

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PointlessWords

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Let’s start with a timeline as to how we got here

What year should we start at?

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10-07-2023 , 08:47 PM

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Who you calling right wing?

lol

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10-07-2023 , 08:47 PM

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Sometimes it's hard to tell, Vic, you call everyone liberals

well, from a distance, everything looks the same

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this will be an interesting forum experiment to see how long this dude lasts here. with the calling for the deaths of tens of thousands of people, and the supremacy stuff..

as the reddit kids say nowadays, least fascist Israeli?