You will get absolutely no argument from me on that.

After 4000+ armed terrorists declared war by invading Israel under the cover of 30k+ rockets on Oct 7th, Israel went to war and killed 35k Gazans so far. These are indeed the facts.

As declarations of war go (by Hamas), that one was a whopper. Think it'll be hundreds of years before anyone forgets it.

I once again am begging you to understand that the atrocities committed by other nations do not justify the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

how bad is it when yall have lost CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/uc...nvs/index.html



such lovely people

We are discussing the fact that territories of the former British Empire were split between two religious groups into their respective parts/countries, and the world carried on (Pakistane, India).

That is what we are talking about.

If we had carried on here, we never get to an Oct 7th. So we never get what follows. Do you see what I mean? This could have gone differently if we'd moved on like every other instance of relocating people post-colonial splits, went.

This one is the anomaly because 3 generations later, people won't move on.

The 125k Jews in Israel aren't trying to get their houses back in Iraq. It's over. Today is today. Nobody is chanting to get their house back in Baghdad.

hey victor, want some land?
its free! all you have to do is convert to Judaism
and claim the torah has promised you a piece of land in Gaza.
/S

Fact: Jordan should have been to Palestinians, what Pakistan became to Muslims (from India).

That's any Palestinians who didn't want to just stay and live in Israel (like the other Israeli Arabs do).

That's the bizarro alternate timeline where all of this thread isn't a thing. History went another way.

Over 2M Arabs live peacefully in Israel (proper) today. Nobody asked them to convert. And the declaration of independence didn't ask them to either.

We know this works, because the Christian, Druze, Ba'hai etc also live peacefully in Israel. And were not asked to convert.

and over 5m live in a brutal oppression inside Israel

lol "and the world carried on," a million ****ing people died and >10 million became refugees.

There are 400 mosques in Israel proper

400

False

That is what Jordan is

There was a conflict over the land of the British Mandate of Palestine. Britain gave 73% of the land to create TransJordan for the Palestinian people. That was before the partition plan for the rest and the Arab world still rejected it

It may not justify it but since the Un and people like you only seem to villify Israel, it shows ignorance or antisemitism. Or both

Which is it trolly?

Mcdonalds is now hamas


or anti idk

antisemitic now means opposition to Israel's mass murder and apartheid. everyone should oppose those atrocities.

Mets, I've repeatedly asked you to not call or imply that posters in this thread are Jew haters, antisemites, etc.

I'm now going to ask you to take a timeout from this thread until 12:00AM EST. Please do not disregard this message.


Edit- Also, we still have not resolved the issue with my control panel, so if you violate the timeout its a 1 day ban currently. (Sorry Micro)

South Africa is def Hamas lol

You mean once a guerrila campaign waged by the Jews successful ousted the British from Palestine

yes south africa has sued them.

Im guessing many other countries could follow.

It might make good sense to you but many now regard Israel as a huge mistake. Jewish people should've been offered US citizenship after WW2 and new towns built.

Washoe, this post is not acceptable. At best it’s antagonistic and lacks content; at worst it’s antisemitic.

This will be the only warning for further posts like this. Thank you

But they weren't and moving away from that fabled land of Coulda Shoulda Woulda and back to planet Earth, the world has one Jewish state and why shouldn't that Jewish state have self determination? Like every other free state?

bc they are doing genocide and apartheid

Not really sure what self-determination means in this context. The most important thing was for Jewish people to be able to live without fear of persecution, and it didn't need creating a new pseudo-country bordered by Muslims to do that. What could possibly go wrong?

It was idea of its time, like Madagascar, that no one would seriously consider nowadays.

I'm against every ethnonationalist project, from the disastrous partition of India to the Ottoman genocides to Russia's genocide against Ukraine to the expulsion of Muslims from Gaza. It's trash 19th century ideology no matter which ethnic group is doing it, there isn't a single functional modern nation that operates that way.

"You'll only be safe around people who look and think like you" --it's just obviously garbage, never trust anyone who tells you this.