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05-15-2024 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
So the story is Israel doesn't want anyone to leave, but israel wants everyone to leave to steal the land

Israel wants to gazans gone so they can steal the land by they would bomb egypt for letting them leave so they can settle the land

That's your argument right?

I need to digest that for at least 72 hours before i can even try to respond

Israel wants the Palestinians out of Gaza (which is explicitly ethnic cleansing, but that's a discussion for another day).

Also, if the Palestinians are forced into refugee camps in Egypt, the IDF will magically discover hidden Hamas bases like they always do there and they'll start bombing them. None of this is terribly complicated. Israel wants the land and Bibi needs a perpetual crisis to stay in power.
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05-15-2024 , 07:46 PM
I gotta clear some pms **** man

Last edited by Victor; 05-15-2024 at 07:52 PM.
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05-15-2024 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Sorry this is so much work Crossnerds. I thought the rules seemed relatively easy tbh.
That’s because the rules help out one side over another
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05-15-2024 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Israel wants the Palestinians out of Gaza (which is explicitly ethnic cleansing, but that's a discussion for another day).

Also, if the Palestinians are forced into refugee camps in Egypt, the IDF will magically discover hidden Hamas bases like they always do there and they'll start bombing them. None of this is terribly complicated. Israel wants the land and Bibi needs a perpetual crisis to stay in power.
None of that is true. Maybe it's your fantasy but it's not reality at all
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05-15-2024 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
That’s because the rules help out one side over another
It's not hard to not call each other names and not use propaganda terms every 2 seconds

Not sure why that's easier for the pro Israel side than the pro hamas side but maybe you can explain?
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05-15-2024 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Israel wants the Palestinians out of Gaza (which is explicitly ethnic cleansing, but that's a discussion for another day).

Also, if the Palestinians are forced into refugee camps in Egypt, the IDF will magically discover hidden Hamas bases like they always do there and they'll start bombing them. None of this is terribly complicated. Israel wants the land and Bibi needs a perpetual crisis to stay in power.
There have been Palestinian refugee camps in Jordan since 1948 (lol Jordan and lol unrwa for allowing 80 year camps)
Why hasn't Israel ever bombed these trolly?
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05-15-2024 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Pro Israel groups are pushing more inside parties than switching parties.

Which is ok: when a seat is safe, getting a pro Israel person is fundamental, they don't play the party game, they play the Israel game



You go against Israel at your own risk
I wish they could primary Bernie but that would never happen
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05-15-2024 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
It's not hard to not call each other names and not use propaganda terms every 2 seconds

Not sure why that's easier for the pro Israel side than the pro hamas side but maybe you can explain?
the only person banned so far is pro-Israel so Im not sure what you are talking about
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05-15-2024 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Israel wants the Palestinians out of Gaza.
Show your work?

There are far right Ministers akin to Marjorie Taylor Greene who've said some nonsense. They hold zero real political sway in the war cabinet. But the core of the Israeli military and political system has had no such plans. And before Oct 7th actually, the Bibi plan was "let them stay there forever as long as they don't blow us up".

That was part of the problem actually, and it just allowed them to prepare for the Oct 7th attack at their own pace. But Bibi's entire political system had ZERO concerns about Gazans staying it Gaza. It suited them just fine.

Since Oct 7th, their plan is to get Hamas. They've made no secrets. But everything beyond that telegraphs a military presence while Gazans stay, and then finding some Arab body to oversee them while again, they stay.

I'll be curious to see the work you present, because to my knowledge it doesn't exist.
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05-15-2024 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
the only person banned so far is pro-Israel so Im not sure what you are talking about
I was replying to pw
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05-15-2024 , 08:51 PM


a war on civilians
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05-15-2024 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
That’s because the rules help out one side over another
Being civil with each other helps everyone. We all benefit.
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05-15-2024 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor


a war on civilians
That hate in that thread .... no words
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05-15-2024 , 08:55 PM
he said that 90% of the people he operates on are civilians and over 50% are children. Israel deserves all the hate they are getting.
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05-15-2024 , 09:02 PM
Hamaway alludes to this in his interview linked above



I think we all can realize why the plan didnt come to fruition.
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05-15-2024 , 09:05 PM


keep on rockin in the free world
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05-15-2024 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
It's done to try to hurt people in this thread, and it's a propoganda tool. The words occupied and apartheid and illegal have been used so often that many people believe it

This is a near defunct 1990s poker message board, so I am not really buying that it’s a propaganda tool. But certainly it seems directed to insult and harm others. But this idea of using the words so often that people believe it is counter to what I am saying - I can’t conceive that it’s realistically going to sway anyone’s opinion here
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05-15-2024 , 09:23 PM
Spoiler:



https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1790893499115606334


many instances of Israel just straight up executing civilians and children. its not really bloody. but it must be spoilered bc this website wants to hide the crimes of the murderous regime like most places do.

anyway, tell me again how they dont intentionally murder civilians.
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05-15-2024 , 09:25 PM
the child tried to run away from the drone

and the Zionists tell me that it had to be done bc of Hamas...or Hitler. I dunno. its hard not to make a value judgment on these people.
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05-15-2024 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
How sure are you the narrative of not enough aid getting through is correct? We have been hearing everyone is being starved to death for about 5 months now. Yet you see pictures of Gaza (not the propaganda ones Victor posts, but real ones of people walking around) and it doesn't look at all like the narrative is saying it does.

And this doesn't even factor in how Hamas is stealing as much of the aid as they can, often by shooting Palestinians who get too close when they are stealing aid trucks and boxes.

I know Egypt said they are not allowing their borders to be used for aid, because they are upset Israel took over the Rafah border crossing (and likely interfered with their smuggling operations). And of course they are getting zero pushback for this. But other than that, I am not sure the narrative of not enough aid getting through is particularly accurate.
100% sure and I did the rudimentary math before. There physically isn’t enough calories getting through even if all the trucks are filled with calorie dense grains, which we know they are not.
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05-15-2024 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Show your work?
You guys are very explicitly calling for the Palestinian people be removed and sent to Egypt?
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05-15-2024 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
You guys are very explicitly calling for the Palestinian people be removed and sent to Egypt?
Nobody has said that

I or others might have said that they should be able to seek temporary refuge in Egypt

But i don't think anyone in this thread said that they should permanently leave and Israel should rebuild settlements there

The only people that keep saying that are you
And victor
And maybe other israel hitters

But have i said that? Has Rafiki?

No

You guys keep saying this untrue statement

Over and over
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05-15-2024 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Being civil with each other helps everyone. We all benefit.
“Please calm down sir. We need to be civil here. It’s only the discussion of dead babies after all. Get ahold of yourself”
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05-15-2024 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
That hate in that thread .... no words
The part where he says the average age of his patients is 12 is pretty rough too.
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05-15-2024 , 10:47 PM
Alright, so now we are, as a collective, going to reflect on this new system where timeouts are on the honor system, but if you violate the honor system then you go to real timeout. microbet will rejoin us at midnight, as previously stated.

Lets not make this a point of conversation in the thread please. Thank youuu
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