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04-27-2024 , 03:31 AM

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Schlitz mmmm

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You're so civilized, Hamas.

Go to bed, pointless

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04-27-2024 , 03:33 AM

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Whisper yourself to sleep with the idea that islamist barbarians are the lesser of 2 evils.

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04-27-2024 , 04:20 AM

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04-27-2024 , 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer

Even if it literally was "we will release the hostages and you pretend nothing happened", it's a truly depraved offer that seeks to take advantage of the families of the kidnapped and Israel's high regard for Israeli life.

Imagine the incentive structure this creates when someone can commit a terrorist act of this scale and then go away unpunished as long as they take hostages.

Israel has little regard for their own life. if they did, they would have accepted the hostages back and not down an invasion.

if they did, then they wouldnt have gotten all those soldiers killed in worthless non-military terrorism missions like blowing up civilian houses.

and I like how you elide what you mean by "unpunished". what is this punishment? oh you mean beheading children, burying children alive, burning them alive?

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04-27-2024 , 06:44 AM

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Israel has shown the exact opposite of what you're claiming.

I have not hidden anything, Israel's unprofessionalism and lack of regard for non-Israeli life in this conflict is widely known and I have criticized it numerous time. I do not agree with what they're doing, but clearly some action needed to be taken. It is obviously possible to suggest that action needed to be taken and not agree with the actions that were taken. What you're attempting to do is extremely dishonest.

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04-27-2024 , 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunyain

Hamas's "offer" on October 10th was probably pretty similar to the one they are making now. That is Israel completely ends hostilities, hands over thousands of prisoners, allows unlimited aid in, and unilaterally agrees not to attack Hamas for 5 years. And in return Hamas will makes plans to release hostages in stages at some unspecified later date.

Also, I doubt there are many live hostages to even give back by this point. Possibly single digits, and possible no women or children.

no that wasnt the offer on the 10th according to these articles. you know, you could just read them.

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04-27-2024 , 06:51 AM

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I dunno man. they sacrificed a few hundred Israeli's so they could do a genocide. I wonder if you would feel the same if you had a family member held hostage in Gaza.

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04-27-2024 , 07:05 AM

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I would not feel the same since that puts me directly into a situation where I would put my own interests over the the necessity to not create incentives for increased terror and kidnappings. That is what makes this situation so grotesque.

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04-27-2024 , 07:21 AM

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necessity to not create incentives for increased terror and kidnappings.

oh you mean by murdering children. you should just say it instead of hiding behind cowardly language like this. be precise!

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04-27-2024 , 07:35 AM

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My views are very precise. You are intentionally misrepresenting them.

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04-27-2024 , 07:44 AM

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They banned stuff like chocolate and potato chips since 2006.
Can u believe that? Who the f does that? They are robbing the children of food?
That's starving people to death. When about 40 people needed medical support, they just let them die. Oops, sorry. That's some n.korea bs.

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04-27-2024 , 07:55 AM

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Who the f bombs their own hostages?

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04-27-2024 , 07:58 AM

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washoe - the actions of your grandad's mates mean you dont get to have a view on jews. sorry

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04-27-2024 , 08:02 AM

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They even banned toys for children. Who the f does that?
Bc toys are so dangerous?

"coriander, jam, chocolate, fried potatoes, dried fruits, fabrics, notebooks, empty flower pots, and toys being prevented from entering Gaza. The Israeli Ministry of Defense cited security reasons for these bans, refusing to disclose specific justifications."

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04-27-2024 , 08:09 AM

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washoe - the actions of your grandad's mates mean you dont get to have a view on jews. sorry

wtf?

Also he's talking about the Israeli government, not Jewish people, and that's antisemitic of you.

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04-27-2024 , 08:26 AM

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washoe - the actions of your grandad's mates mean you dont get to have a view on jews. sorry

There's no need for that, washoe is in no way responsible for what happened over 80 years ago and his nationality doesn't mean he can't have an opinion. You're better than this mate.

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04-27-2024 , 08:35 AM

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i can absolutely assure you that i am not

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04-27-2024 , 08:49 AM

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There's no need for that, washoe is in no way responsible for what happened over 80 years ago and his nationality doesn't mean he can't have an opinion. You're better than this mate.

He's buddying up to an antisemitic nazi in the thread though

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04-27-2024 , 09:17 AM

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antisemitism is humanizing Palestinians. you guys have completely destroyed the term.

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04-27-2024 , 10:18 AM

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To be honest that happened when people started claiming that being anti-Zionism was the same as antisemitism. It's all gone downhill since.

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04-27-2024 , 10:29 AM

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Denying the Jews their only ancestral homeland while the Muslims otherwise get all the territory they want, can't possibly be against Jews. Can't POSSIBLY

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04-27-2024 , 10:31 AM

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**** the idea of homelands. What entitled nonsense you've bought into. I'd think the same of someone of Arabic descent who claimed a homeland in the ME despite his ancestors not living there for generations.

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04-27-2024 , 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

**** the idea of homelands. What entitled nonsense you've bought into.

And yet, the Muslims get endless amounts of it. Wild!

WE MUST PROTEST THIS!

You guys do get that the Palestinians seek.....a Palestinian homeland. That's not lost on you, right? The Palestinians want to self-determine themselves. Where have I heard that. hmmmmmmm

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04-27-2024 , 10:35 AM

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We must protest for the rights of the Palestinians to have their own homeland while rejecting the notion of homelands.

Diabolical Jalfrezi. Simply diabolical.

A Palestinian state would be run by majority Muslims, for majority Muslims, with their interests at heart. **** HOMELANDS

You guys really make life spicy for the Jews.

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04-27-2024 , 10:36 AM

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afaik the Palestinian settlers weren't living mainly in Europe and the US.

As I said in an edit above (which you didn't quote), I'd think the same of someone of Arabic descent who claimed a homeland in the ME despite his ancestors not living there for generations.

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