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Yesterday , 11:04 AM
5 children killed today so far in Lebanon.
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Yesterday , 11:05 AM
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Yesterday , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
This is why we must side with Israel. It is good to have a liberal country where protests are allowed. The last thing we should do is support Islamists who want to destroy Israel and create authoritarian societies in its place.
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Yesterday , 12:31 PM
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Yesterday , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Show us where Ireland has sided with Hamas,

Your use of England instead of the correct state is a good indication you have nfi what you’re talking about,
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...mas-terrorism/
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Yesterday , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
This proves my point most of the claims of "IDF atrocities" are mostly just bullshit. Everyone has a camera and is filming non stop, and the worst thing they could come up with is in the middle of a battle some soldiers pushing already dead bodies off a rooftop. What a complete nothing burger.
This is a pretty bad thing though..
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Yesterday , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by thomasmyspace
This is a pretty bad thing though..
Why?
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Yesterday , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LtUaE42
There's no evidence in that article of support for Hamas, it's just a smear.

Recognizing a Palestinian state favors all Palestinians and is not indicative of an opinion about Hamas.

The oped also gives no reason to think the recognition of Palestine was not driven by the genocide.
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Yesterday , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thomasmyspace
This is a pretty bad thing though..
It is funny. I dont remember Al Jazeera, you, Bill Haywood, Victor or anyone else that is outraged by militant bodies being dumped off a roof being particularly perturbed when Hamas Jihadis were dragging bodies of 10/7 Jewish victims through the streets of Gaza while jubilant throngs of Palestinians danced on their bodies crying out Allah Akbar.

Why is that do you think that is?
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Yesterday , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood
There's no evidence in that article of support for Hamas, it's just a smear.

Recognizing a Palestinian state favors all Palestinians and is not indicative of an opinion about Hamas.

The oped also gives no reason to think the recognition of Palestine was not driven by the genocide.
You mean 10/7, when the Jewish Kibbutzes were genocided?
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Yesterday , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
5 children killed today so far in Lebanon.
Seems like now is as good a time as any for Hezbollah to stop attacking Israel and retreat behind the Litani River, as promised in 2007; so no one else has to die.

That is the part of the equation all the Islamists sycophants seem to be missing. Is that Hezbollah are the ones causing all of this by their continual attacks of Israel since 10/8/23. And they can stop anytime to end hostilities.
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Yesterday , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
You are right. This is very disturbing. They say you become what you hate, and after 80 years after fighting its Arab neighbors and the IRI, unfortunately the Israeli right seems to be becoming more and more like them, which is not a good thing.

There was also videos of Israelis passing out candies in the street recently to celebrate all the Hezbollah casualties (a very repulsive local Arab custom). This is not ok, and I am very heartened Israel and the Jewish people have a vibrant left that is able and willing to stand against such behavior.

I dont agree with Haaretz on everything, but I think it is a very good thing that Israel has a Haaretz, and more generally a left that will call out and stand up to bad behavior. And something that is very missing among the Islamist societies trying to destroy Israel.
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Yesterday , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
You are right. This is very disturbing. They say you become what you hate, and after 80 years after fighting its Arab neighbors and the IRI, unfortunately the Israeli right seems to be becoming more and more like them, which is not a good thing.

There was also videos of Israelis passing out candies in the street recently to celebrate all the Hezbollah casualties (a very repulsive local Arab custom). This is not ok, and I am very heartened Israel and the Jewish people have a vibrant left that is able and willing to stand against such behavior.

I dont agree with Haaretz on everything, but I think it is a very good thing that Israel has a Haaretz, and more generally a left that will call out and stand up to bad behavior. And something that is very missing among the Islamist societies trying to destroy Israel.
Good post. I get that war leads to dehumanization naturally but it’s worth reminding ourselves not to become the very thing we’re fighting against.
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Yesterday , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
You are right. This is very disturbing. They say you become what you hate, and after 80 years after fighting its Arab neighbors and the IRI, unfortunately the Israeli right seems to be becoming more and more like them, which is not a good thing.

There was also videos of Israelis passing out candies in the street recently to celebrate all the Hezbollah casualties (a very repulsive local Arab custom). This is not ok, and I am very heartened Israel and the Jewish people have a vibrant left that is able and willing to stand against such behavior.

I dont agree with Haaretz on everything, but I think it is a very good thing that Israel has a Haaretz, and more generally a left that will call out and stand up to bad behavior. And something that is very missing among the Islamist societies trying to destroy Israel.
Absolutly. it's a large part of why we have to hold ourselves to a higher moral standard than those we oppose.

Worse for israel than netanyhau increasingly isolating them internationally, it's that he is making that isolation justified.
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Today , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Good post. I get that war leads to dehumanization naturally but it’s worth reminding ourselves not to become the very thing we’re fighting against.
I tell myself this often, it's a losing battle.








https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...ation-00180299

US officials expect significant escalation between Israel and Hezbollah

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U.S. officials are anticipating that the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah will increase significantly in the coming days, potentially sparking an all-out war between the two sides.








Good read:

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Today , 12:28 AM
Batteries of Lebanon walkie-talkies contained PETN explosive - Lebanese source

-The batteries of the walkie-talkies used by Lebanese armed group Hezbollah that blew up this week were laced with a highly explosive compound known as PETN, a Lebanese source familiar with the device's components told Reuters.

The way the explosive material was integrated into the battery pack made it extremely difficult to detect, the source said.

Hundreds of walkie-talkies used by the group exploded on Wednesday, a day after thousands of Hezbollah's pagers detonated across the group's strongholds in Lebanon.

Pictures of the walkie-talkies that had exploded showed labels reading "ICOM" and "made in Japan". Icom has said it halted production a decade ago of the radio models identified in the attack, and that most of those still on sale were counterfeit.
Yoshiki Enomoto, the general manager of Icom's security and trade division, told Reuters it was possible that an older Icom device had been modified to make a bomb.

It would be difficult to insert an explosive device into the main compartment of the walkie-talkie because its electronics are tightly packed, so it was more likely to have been in the detachable battery pack, Enomoto told the Japanese broadcaster Fuji TV.

The Lebanese source said explosions had occurred even in cases where the battery pack was separated from the rest of the device.
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