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Hezbollah can always outflank Netanyahu by stopping their attack of Israel. And then all the fighting in the North will be done.

This thing where you absolve the parties who started all the violence and refuse to stop, and yet it is somehow completely the fault of Israel that the fighting is dragging on, is extremely bizarre IMO.

It is indeed a bizarre thing you make up.

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Bluegrassplayer

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DoyleBrunsonFan

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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw

do you ever get tired of siding with the people that want to see the middle east burn because they hate Jews? (referring to Hezbollah) I guess you don’t have to live with the consequences of them trashing their own state out of spite and hatred.

edit: to be clear because I know someone is going to misinterpret, I’m not saying anti-Zionism is anti-Judaism, I’m saying that anti-Israel jihadists hate jews.

His posts itt are almost entirely fiction, oftentimes reading like a fanfic story.

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Victor

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Even Orwell would be embarrassed by this

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chezlaw

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It would make more sense if there was a political process in the picture.

As it is there is no de-escalation to attempt to reach. That just leaves escalate to 'once and for all'

Currentyl it's like wielding a stick to get carrot eating when there are no carrots. Maybe someone should grow some?

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The article goes into it. It's outrageous, but it's how that area of the world works. No one wants war, but everyone wants to know just how much their enemies don't want war. If one side reacts too weakly it leads to escalation; if they react too strongly it leads to war. The place is a mess.

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chezlaw

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Here are some more comments from Hezbollah’s deputy leader Naim Qassem.

“We admit that we are pained. We are humans. But as we are pained — you will also be pained,” Kassem said at the funeral of top Hezbollah commander Ibrahim Akil, who reportedly led the Radwan Force, a special forces unit tasked with cross-border attacks on Israel.

He said a barrage of rockets fired by the group deep into Israel early on Sunday was only the beginning, vowing to destroy Israel’s economy.

Hezbollah’s deputy secretary-general Naim Qassem has said that the Lebanese militant group had entered a new phase of its conflict with Israel which he described as an “open-ended battle of reckoning”.

“Threats will not stop us... We are ready to face all military possibilities,” he added.

The comments were made earlier today during a funeral for a top commander killed in an Israeli strike on Beirut’s southern suburbs on Friday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...t-news-updates

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DoyleBrunsonFan

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Hezbollah started immediately launching rockets into Israel following Oct 7th so I’m not sure what kind of political solution people think is possible. Working towards a political solution with the Israelis is a sign of weakness for Hezbollah and right now they are desperately trying to project strength in any way they can.

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Bill Haywood

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The phrase "human shield" has been stretched beyond recognition.

Every accusation a confession: Israel and the double lie of ‘human shields’

It means soldiers forcing civilians to walk ahead of them. Israel has twisted it to cover all civilian casualties.

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Originally Posted by Victor

they are still launching hundreds of rockets and just yesterday targeted an air force base.

but they dont want all out war and so long as Nazrallah and the old guys are in charge they wont bite. they think that a long term war of attrition where they just continue to exist and harass Israeli is the best path to decolonialization. they dont give a **** about what Western pundits think of their capabilities or strategy.

Decolonization. Enough said.

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checkraisdraw

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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood

Ok so what would YOU call it when Hamas sets up military operations inside active hospitals, schools, and civilian homes? If not human shield come up with another term for this evilness.

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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer

The article goes into it. It's outrageous, but it's how that area of the world works. No one wants war, but everyone wants to know just how much their enemies don't want war.

There's nothing magical about that part of the world that somehow works differently from the rest of the world. "Peace through escalation" sounds outrageous because it is outrageous.

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There's nothing magical about that part of the world that somehow works differently from the rest of the world. "Peace through escalation" sounds outrageous because it is outrageous.

You escalate, one side gets destroyed, you get durable peace afterwards.

Many such cases, in many parts of the world.

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DoyleBrunsonFan

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

There's nothing magical about that part of the world that somehow works differently from the rest of the world. "Peace through escalation" sounds outrageous because it is outrageous.

Radical Islamists make that part of the world work differently. Certainly nothing magical about it.

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Victor

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You escalate, one side gets destroyed, you get durable peace afterwards.

Many such cases, in many parts of the world.

like when White Empire escalated in Vietnam, Algeria, India, many such cases.

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Victor

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South Africa too

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checkraisdraw

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The White Empire of Israel actually has a nice ring to it.

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