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Originally Posted by Victor
the declared number is not over 50k. its like 42k. quick google search or just reading mainstream sources will tell you that. it is even mentioned in that article.
Take this up with the person from the article? I'm not doubting 42k, and I'm not doubting that 10k is buried, I'm doubting the outrageous opinion piece in the Lancet claiming 186k, and your claims of (if I recall correctly, 500k):
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
It's a very loose estimate. Could be higher than 10k, probably not 140k higher though.
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
To begin with the number suggested by the article, and which Victor is claiming is for the current total TODAY, is nearly twice 100k: 186k to be exact. What Victor is suggesting that the article says is that currently for every body that the Gaza Health Ministry claims, there are 4 bodies which haven't been discovered. That's not 1 death per bomb, it's 4.
Whereas the UN claims there's 10k or so uncovered bodies, he is saying there's 150,000.
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reread the article, they keep 2 lists.
OK?
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regardless, this guy is explicit that none of these groups are on either list
it takes a lot of effort to debunk your blatant misinformation. just linking an article is not enough. I need to screenshot every single point otherwise you will deny it. regardless, now others can see the truth of how meticulous the Health Ministry is and how the reported number of ~42k is a massive undercount.
Yep, looks like I was wrong on a few of those, although several of them do fall into the category of being counted as casualties. Sorry, I can't answer all of your sealioning questions on demand. My overall point still stands: approx 40k dead when we previously discussed it, approx 10k buried. Your source seems to second that opinion, which isn't surprising since he works for the same organization as the person from the last article I posted on the subject. It's almost as if these are numbers directly from the Gaza Ministry of Health:
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Dr. Zaher al-Wahaidi: The estimates from the Government Media Office indicate that the number of martyrs is 50,000, as at least 10,000 are still under the rubble. This is the declared number, and there are unreported figures as well.
You were trying to suggest that there's a lot of bodies which the Ministry of Health knew about but could not count in their figures, and that is not the case.
I doubt that there's 450k dead from lack of dialysis, childbirth, or starvation. This isn't meant to discount these issues, it's meant to highlight that realistic and confirmed numbers are better than outright fiction. 200k is outright fiction at this point. 500k...
Thanks for sharing the article, it's good information. It clarifies my main points and also corrects some minor points we had to make assumptions about due to lack of information.