This is where a lot of less knowledgeable people get in trouble.

There is no question regardless of how many times you read the Constitution it was Trumps tax cuts and budget that the Congress then voted to approve.

What you are saying would to absolve GWB of responsibility for the War in Iraq based on reading the Constitution and how the powers are delineated.

I am speaking to what happens in REALITY and not just in theory after a reading. You are speaking solely to the latter.

What was the stat I heard yesterday 1,000,000 since Jan 1st?

I am not sure why Cubans would not get the same right as central Americans? Tougher to ship them back also

The inconsistent standards from the righteously indignant party is something to behold.

What stat are you talking about? Are you implying Biden is letting some people in and not Cubans for some political reason? If so, not true. Arrests at the Mexican border are way up. Detentions are up. If you liked Trump's border policy you should be thrilled with Biden.

Eta: the 1000000 is arrests. So what do you mean by rights that Central Americans are getting? The right to be arrested, put in jail and deported?

Republicans are not righteously indignant? What? Are they just like live and let live and don't try to enact any policies based on who they think are right or wrong? They're doing some ammoral judgement free calculations and coming up with marriage restrictions, abortion restrictions, immigrating restrictions, drug restrictions, gambling restrictions?

I have no issue calling Republicans dumbasses. I don't see too many people on the left criticizing Bidens rejection of asylum seekers. Biden is preventing Cubans from entering the country.. after being mortified and in moral panic at asylum seekers being restricted previously. Is the best you got a whataboutism?

Border arrests is what I assume they meant as you really cant count the ones not caught.

Actually I liked Trumps stay in Mexico policy and Biden's policies are like removing duct tape from a leaky pipe with no plan to fix it.

Biden promised change at the Mexician border and people are not seing it.

Everyone on the left is criticizing Biden for preventing refugees and asylum seekers from entering the country. Your problem is you don't know who the left is.

Central Americans don't get taken to the US if they are rescued off US waters either.

You mean the magical free wall Trump promised you didn't fix things?

If they wanted to come I would love to have every single person in Central America live in the US as a full citizen.

Why stop there . Why not all of South America and any other country .


That was just stupid. Tactical areas of wall with high tech is a better solution.


Lets be clear Biden had no plan other than remove all of Trumps stuff. Pretty much what Trump did to Obama

The more the merrier.

In a nutshell, this!

Libertarians are far more open to immigration than both the typical Democrat and the typical Republican.

Open borders is the correct point of view. All others are self centered or racist in premises.

Immigration is win/win. The guy leaving Mexico or Nicaragua or wherever gets substantially better economic opportunities, and the people of the USA or whatever first world country he moves to benefit from all the trade that is done with these immigrants when they spend their salaries. Plus when they send money back home that is a form of highly effective foreign aid that is targeted to do the most good and doesn't cost the taxpayer a dime. And imo most of these guys are going to have super strong work ethics, because that is just the way it is in third world countries, you need to work your ass off to survive. They are happy to work 10-12 hour days, especially if they are getting paid competitive Western salaries even just in the $10 to $15 / hr range or whatever, since they were working just as hard for $1 / hr back home. And

Until about four years ago, Bernie was against open borders. Was he being self-centered and/or racist?

What other countries have open borders?

God, I wish.

Open borders on capital is the mission of the EU, WTO, USA, UN, (etc.)...unless it benefits major capitalists to have some protectionism.

Open borders on labour OH NO CAN'T DO THAT, bogey man, bogey man.

Its a con.

It's called Outsourcing.

Selfish. Organized labor doesn't like it.

I don't pretend to know immigration policy for every country in the world. I think some countries try pretty hard to promote immigration, but shrug. The US had almost open borders for more than a hundred years and that worked out great.

Good point.

Perhaps one reason that open-borders "worked out great" 150 years ago was because about half of what is now the United States was unclaimed territory.

Tell that to the Natives

They should have built a wall.

A lot of territory wasn't claimed by anybody, including Native Americans.