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06-11-2020 , 04:04 PM
I am left...no you are not!
On any scale from left to right...this is too funny!
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06-11-2020 , 04:11 PM
If you vote democrats you aren't left. They are a rightwing party that exists to be the "good cops" to the GOP bad cops.
People delude themselves into thinking that's the left because they know no other alternative as the system provides no other alternative.
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06-11-2020 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FallawayJumper
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yes there are some bad cops who need to be disciplined or prosecuted

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and yes, many police departments need reform
but the protesters want you to disparage all cops
that's not right
cops risk their lives every day for our safety

they want to blame all cops for the crimes of a very few
that's not fair
yes it is fair. the supposed "good cops" cover up and protect the bad ones. but at this point it is very hard for me to believe that there are more than a minisucle amount of good ones anyway.

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would they think it's fair to call a peaceful protester a looter?
yes if that peaceful protester was involved in helping the looters burn and rape and murder and steal like the cops do.

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defunding the police is a horrible and ridiculous idea
do they think that some community action committee can respond to a drug deal shooting? how about a rape? a community action committee is going to catch and jail a rapist? real doubtful
do you have any idea how much money gets pumped into the police departments in our country? while all other public amenities like schools, health care, social security, roads, food stamps, etc are getting slashed we are giving 100s of billions to the police.

and whats the money for? just recently there was a story of a small town police dept using it to buy a friggin grenade launcher. look at the protests and you will see the cops have like 5k dollars worth of armor and arms on them during these things. I read that it costs 100k to get a new car and they get new ones every couple years.

so while I certainly think that we should abolish the police, that is not what the word "defund" means. it means stop giving them infinite money while the population is uneducated and barely at subsistence with no public amenities.

(and yes I do think a community action can find a rapist and would likely do far better than the corrupt police that just throw the closest black person in jail but again words mean things and defund does not mean abolish and implement a "community action". since that should be obv I gotta think you are being intentionally disingenuous.)

the far, far out new left has the potential to split the Democratic Party in a similar way to the way Bernie split the party

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although it's probably unlikely because of the great dislike of Trump, still, it's a distinct possibility that they could cause Trump to win

if Bernie had been nominated I would not have voted
if the new left controls the Democratic narrative I will not vote

I'm sure there are many that feel this way
right well you arent left. you arent even a shitlib. you are extremely right wing and your idealogy has caused more pain and suffering than anything else in history and is the reason so many in this country are completely ****ed.
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06-11-2020 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
If you vote democrats you aren't left. They are a rightwing party that exists to be the "good cops" to the GOP bad cops.
People delude themselves into thinking that's the left because they know no other alternative as the system provides no other alternative.
well said
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06-11-2020 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FallawayJumper
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yes there are some bad cops who need to be disciplined or prosecuted
and yes, many police departments need reform
but the protesters want you to disparage all cops
that's not right
cops risk their lives every day for our safety

they want to blame all cops for the crimes of a very few
that's not fair
would they think it's fair to call a peaceful protester a looter?

defunding the police is a horrible and ridiculous idea
do they think that some community action committee can respond to a drug deal shooting? how about a rape? a community action committee is going to catch and jail a rapist? real doubtful

the far, far out new left has the potential to split the Democratic Party in a similar way to the way Bernie split the party

although it's probably unlikely because of the great dislike of Trump, still, it's a distinct possibility that they could cause Trump to win

if Bernie had been nominated I would not have voted
if the new left controls the Democratic narrative I will not vote
I'm sure there are many that feel this way

MAGA
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06-11-2020 , 04:24 PM
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Gee Whiz Mr. Bill

I've been called a right wing troll by several
one guy implied I was a Nazi

wait, there's more...................I "am the reason so many in this country are f....ed"

okay, you got me - I'll come clean - it's true - it's me - I'm the bad guy - I got found out

another said I'm a cop or have a close family member who is a cop
this is a person who doesn't even know my real name

okay, okay, I'm going to ask everybody to just please stop

because I'm hurting now..............because I'm real sensitive

if you look at me you see somebody happy on the outside but I'm crying on the inside

I just took a nap and when I woke up there were tears no my pillow

why you ask? why does it hurt so much?



because of my deep and abiding respect for people who call names to try to win points in a discussion




Last edited by FallawayJumper; 06-11-2020 at 04:33 PM. Reason: because I'm having so much fun
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06-11-2020 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FallawayJumper
another said I'm a cop or have a close family member who is a cop
But was I right?
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06-11-2020 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
If you vote democrats you aren't left. They are a rightwing party that exists to be the "good cops" to the GOP bad cops.
People delude themselves into thinking that's the left because they know no other alternative as the system provides no other alternative.
Who do they vote for?
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06-11-2020 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
If you vote democrats you aren't left. They are a rightwing party that exists to be the "good cops" to the GOP bad cops.
People delude themselves into thinking that's the left because they know no other alternative as the system provides no other alternative.
What u r saying is: Dems are on the left side of the right side???
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06-11-2020 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FallawayJumper
one guy implied I was a Nazi
I'm not sure if you mean me, but it seems like the only two people to mention the word were me and neverbeclever, who was predicting that someone would call you such, and disapproving of it.

As for me, that post wasn't about you, fwiw. It's a joke in reference to Trolly calling this forum my nazi playground. Sorry if I caused any confusion, I just couldn't resist.
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06-11-2020 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
Who do they vote for?
It's more about like and dislike buttons.
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06-11-2020 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
Who do they vote for?
Gloria La Riva or they just stay home.
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06-11-2020 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
It's more about like and dislike buttons.
Very serious people are entering the thread. Everyone should ship up.
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06-11-2020 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
But was I right?

why should I answer you?
if I said no you wouldn't believe me

after all I'm a troll
and it's nothing for a troll to tell a lie

no reason to answer
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06-11-2020 , 04:42 PM
Probably your dad
[Sorry Fallaway-- I'm just trolling-- I don't think you're trolling. I think you're serious. I still do think I might be onto something about the cop stuff though. I'd believe you if you said I was wrong]
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06-11-2020 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I'm not sure if you mean me, but it seems like the only two people to mention the word were me and neverbeclever, who was predicting that someone would call you such, and disapproving of it.

As for me, that post wasn't about you, fwiw. It's a joke in reference to Trolly calling this forum my nazi playground. Sorry if I caused any confusion, I just couldn't resist.

no problem dude - thanks for the explanation
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06-11-2020 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
this times 1000.

this needs to be posted everytime one of these people post that idiotic " they risk their lives for our safety!" bullshit.. gtfo.
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06-11-2020 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
this times 1000.



this needs to be posted everytime one of these people post that idiotic " they risk their lives for our safety!" bullshit.. gtfo.
I think technically speaking fisherman are not risking their lives for our safety nor or any of those other jobs. So it's not really the greatest rebuttal of what you are alleging it rebuts.
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06-11-2020 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FallawayJumper
why should I answer you?
if I said no you wouldn't believe me

after all I'm a troll
and it's nothing for a troll to tell a lie

no reason to answer
This one very much reminds me of Emily Dickinson.
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06-11-2020 , 06:26 PM
Seems like it's been ages since Trolly made me laugh and it was all worth it for that one
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06-11-2020 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FallawayJumper
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Gee Whiz Mr. Bill

I've been called a right wing troll by several
one guy implied I was a Nazi

wait, there's more...................I "am the reason so many in this country are f....ed"

okay, you got me - I'll come clean - it's true - it's me - I'm the bad guy - I got found out

another said I'm a cop or have a close family member who is a cop
this is a person who doesn't even know my real name

okay, okay, I'm going to ask everybody to just please stop

because I'm hurting now..............because I'm real sensitive

if you look at me you see somebody happy on the outside but I'm crying on the inside

I just took a nap and when I woke up there were tears no my pillow

why you ask? why does it hurt so much?



because of my deep and abiding respect for people who call names to try to win points in a discussion



you sound kinda mad. even looked up a whole gif and posted which isnt easy on these dumbass boards.

but for real, why should anyone take you seriously when you cant even support the most milquetoast leftist in all of American politics in Bernie? like, what is it about Bernie that was so distressing to you?

and the last thing, why should anyone take you seriously when its clear that you have no idea of what words even mean? you are acting like "defunding" means to "get rid of". why do you need to misrepresent a position and then actually start a thread about it?
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06-11-2020 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Wing politics tends to shift when the center shifts. So if the center shifts towards the fringe, the fringe shifts one step further out. I think it is because the fringe tends to see problems, while the center is more focused on what works.

This isn't in itself a bad thing. It's something that has given us many of the human rights we enjoy today and given us many of the norms we now take for granted. It's certainly radical, but not necessarily extremist. If the development over the last century has shown anything, it is that what is progressive for one generation is the status quo for the next.

One potential problem is that fringe views are more noteworthy and often thrive on notoriety, so nuance is not the name of the game. So you get a lot of very angry debates and often more noise than results. Combine this with the 5-minute news cycle of 2020 and the results are... interesting.
As I've said many times. Progressive politics is about moving the centre.

Even when our side wins we wont be in power for that long. |If we don't move the center we have achieved very little.
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06-11-2020 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FallawayJumper
no problem dude - thanks for the explanation
Why don't you tell us what general polices you support that make you left wing.

It's much more relevant than what fringe stuff you don't like
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06-11-2020 , 08:42 PM
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Can't defend the police. Then who will protect the minority small business owner from robberies?
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06-11-2020 , 08:44 PM
Breaking News!!

Trump warns against 'falsely labeling' people as racist
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