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yes there are some bad cops who need to be disciplined or prosecuted
and yes, many police departments need reform
but the protesters want you to disparage all cops
that's not right
cops risk their lives every day for our safety

they want to blame all cops for the crimes of a very few
that's not fair
would they think it's fair to call a peaceful protester a looter?

defunding the police is a horrible and ridiculous idea
do they think that some community action committee can respond to a drug deal shooting? how about a rape? a community action committee is going to catch and jail a rapist? real doubtful

the far, far out new left has the potential to split the Democratic Party in a similar way to the way Bernie split the party

although it's probably unlikely because of the great dislike of Trump, still, it's a distinct possibility that they could cause Trump to win

if Bernie had been nominated I would not have voted
if the new left controls the Democratic narrative I will not vote
I'm sure there are many that feel this way

"You ain't left"

''I'm left but the new left going way too far out''

Boy, u sure picked the right forum! lol

Don't listen to Luckbox. He's just an agitator.
You are left. Left of Alex Jones, left of Sean Hannity. You are left.

I don't know exactly what they mean by defunding the police. I think that the people proposing these ideas are talking about a lot of things. But totally dismantling the police isn't it. But the police don't need to spend large portions of the budgets purchasing bazookas, armored vehicles, and other war materials from the military.
The police don't need to be the ones answering a call for a medical emergency, like when someone, for example, is suffering an epileptic seizure. Or to discipline school children.They themselves say they're not trained for that stuff.
If you are at all left like you claim, you'd recognize and acknowledge that changes need to be made.

Otherwise, stop the bs

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those bashing me seem to think that you can't be Democratic and not agree with what the far left has as their agenda..............a ridiculous idea

another big issue in bashing cops:

a great many cops are black, particularly in big cities
so in bashing cops they are bashing other black people

these are the DC cops near to where I live:

Your centrist.

Make up by mind!

Ok. You sort of triggered a past trauma when you complained about being bashed for your views. I was actually accused of being right wing in the old politics thread because I said I thought Mcain was a stand up guy, amongst other things.
I too always considered myself moderate.
But you are a paradox. Demanding meaningful police Reform is not bashing the cops.
Only a right winger thinks that way.
And not all black cops are good either. They are always a minority in every precinct and fall victim of peer pressure in order to not have their lives be made difficult.
We need a lot more black cops before they actually can start making a difference.

I am not left but I agree op. Healthcare for All and not wanting the cops to murder peoooe are two bridges too far. We have to rein this radical left In before they start making college accessible for all!

I feel sorry for OP, who could imagine he would wind up into Antifa's HQ!

Is this OP free verse or something?

Maybe I should have made myself more clear.
This guy and cops like him are not progress and reform.
Unless you are a righty I guess.

Wing politics tends to shift when the center shifts. So if the center shifts towards the fringe, the fringe shifts one step further out. I think it is because the fringe tends to see problems, while the center is more focused on what works.

This isn't in itself a bad thing. It's something that has given us many of the human rights we enjoy today and given us many of the norms we now take for granted. It's certainly radical, but not necessarily extremist. If the development over the last century has shown anything, it is that what is progressive for one generation is the status quo for the next.

One potential problem is that fringe views are more noteworthy and often thrive on notoriety, so nuance is not the name of the game. So you get a lot of very angry debates and often more noise than results. Combine this with the 5-minute news cycle of 2020 and the results are... interesting.

You keep saying stuff like this, but as always, it's based on a snuck premise. Don't think for a minute that you are not, at the very least, an extreme partisan, and I would consider you an extremist who relies on the less extreme positions, along with conflating stuff to hide it. Everything you say is distorted in one way another, with the main goal of demonstrating your extremism as altruistic, or honorable. When confronted with your distortions, you just deflect, or ignore the criticism. That's what extremist do. When we flesh out your arguments, it boils down to the means justify the ends, and ultimately people can see you contradict the very values you portend to stand for.

this is a quote from my OP

"and yes, many police departments need reform"

no, saying there is a need for police reform is not bashing cops as both you and I have stated - although you chose to ignore what I stated and wrongly characterized my meaning


bashing cops is getting in the face of a cop and screaming at him as if he is responsible for all the ills of all the bad cops in the world and for all the racism in the world

or throwing bottles or rocks at cops

or not throwing bottles or rocks at cops but saying you "understand" or "sympathize" with those that do





lastly, your statement that: "black cops are always a minority in every precinct" is blatantly false

referring to DC cops:

"As of 2017, about 52% of sworn personnel were black, 36% were white, 9% were Hispanic, and 4% were Asian."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrop...20were%20Asian.

Get out while u can...before page3 u will be called out for [F1]dumb, [F2]racist, [F3]stupid, [F4]nazi.
Cut your losses and move on...

So, op, you are against the protesters and consider them domestic terrorists I gather?

once again you attempt to mischaracterize my meaning

I support peaceful protest

I don't support getting in the face of cops and screaming at them
or throwing bottles or rocks at them
or not throwing bottles or rocks at them but saying you "sympathize" or "understand" those who do




and then you throw out the words "domestic terrorists" which I didn't use and would never use except towards those on the right or left who resort to extreme violence

breaking a store window does not qualify a person as a domestic terrorist
just as a very misguided person deserving of some form of discipline

Touche. And you mischarechterise me op. I never said I agree with protesters being abusive to police.

But you're walking a thin line.
As I've said before in one of the other threads. It's an obvious tactic of the extreme right and white supremacists, to discredit all protesters, and the issues they stand for, and sweep them under the rug and ignore having to make changes, by constantly highlighting the unfortunate looting and rioting that so often happen alongside the peaceful and legitimate protesting.
And we now know that a large part of why so many protests turn violent is because white extremists infiltrate the protesters to purposefully turn them violent and because of faulty and failed police tactics.
The police in countless instances instigate the violence themselves. It's been documented over and over again.

So I really don't know what the purpose of this whole thread is .
I'm starting to think you're another right wing troll trying to discredit the BLM movement in order to impede needed reform and progress in this country.
Have a nice day

@WN
U can delete all u want...but did i called it or what?

You should try to post something with a little more content.

You don't support a harmless activity like yelling in the faces of cops? Yeah, you're not left.

Did we upset someone with the truth?

Oh my, are we sensitive.
Like a snowflake?

U should try to moderate posts with 'nazi' 'racist' assumptions...i mean: where u draw the line?
Oh wait...u dont.

Ive seen 2,3 word posts in here so dont even go there...