No, no, no,


Please separate it into what the FBI KNEW before the 2020 election for certain. Or at least to a lower bar what they SHOULD have known because it was already VERIFIED public knowledge?

Go.

We all know that I have no clue what the FBI knew and the only way we find out is Congressional hearings

Hunter giving Trolly a BJ

I’m completely at a loss as to why I should care about Hunter Biden’s laptop.

someone needs to tell QP and Trolly that they are way wrong.

QP is doing exactly what he is accusing the left of, which is pretending that certain material doesn't exists and that they are angeshooting the right. they are also gaslighting all the time. but QP seems to copy that tactic on certain issues. on other issues he nails it, bit not this one.

So please tell us what u think it’s in biden laptop that we should care about and affect the next election and how that laptop as any relevance on how it could affect future government policies ?
If it is that relevant and that important .

Mr Hunter Biden was broke, addicted and unemployed and in financial trouble before he became Chief BigDick in the Ukraine.

what's on it? you still ask that? so u haven't read anything.

proof of corruption and illegal acts. worst is endangerment of national security and putting private interest over national interests imo..so corruption. all through your president top dog Biden senior.

Good to see you back washoe. This Hunter thing needs to be the most important topic in all the upcoming elections. Do everything you can to convince the Republican party of the need to make this their number 1 issue. Double your time investigating Hunter moving forward. You need to be the voice that gets them to appreciate (like in 2020) that they need to ride Hunter to the election results they deserve for that choice.

All the best.

How could we know that.

It seems to be your biggest out rage. Over and over you tell us about the FBI failings, as if they had the knowledge to act on or make pronouncements about this stuff. Now you are telling us you are 'just hearing things'??

And based on what you are hearing, which is this constant right wing talking point, you are willing to condemn the FBI and spread this whataboutism as some huge out rage.

Do you not see the problem with that? Do you not understand that the FBI should take even more care than the print media to verify and investigate up to a level where they would bring charges before allowing that story to get out?

And that is especially true when the information is run over by the Trump campaign prior to an election when Trump and his team are proven to try and weaponize any claim they can to hurt the opponents in an election with the hope the truth only comes out after when the damage is done?


I say it all the time that you are such a mark for these right wing talking points and this one is one of your top gaffs. You are admitting you have no basis for accusation but obviously bought the narrative from the right anyway.

I'm literally asking you guys to enlighten me here.

So joe biden is implicated how in this exactly ?
Giving orders to his son to enrich the biden family through corruption ?

How exactly U think they put in danger national US Interest and national US security from Ukraine ?

Yeah that Right winger Mark Zuckerberg and Joe Rogan

So you realize you are being incredibly dishonest here.

I am asking you over and over to just quote some facts. Give me some data.

You are positive the FBI did so much cover up and wrong, and now you are saying you have Zuckerberg and Rogan comments that are your proof. Give me the quotes where they say the FBI had definitive chargeable evidence. I have not seen it and would love to see it, if it is true.


But it seems clear all you do is use this dishonest spin to keep suggesting there is all this evidence, like Rogan and Zuckerberg and others while you just keep moving away and on to the next, without ever once providing an ounce of it.

You know that is exactly the Trump way right? Just say people did stuff. Provide zero evidence, move on, and keep proclaiming as if true and proven.

So once again I am asking, for just a single substantiated, something, ANYTHING, that is definitive and the basis of your knowledge that the FBI did some grievous wrong.

Will you provide it?

https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-worl...ss-state-lines

If this is the kind of stories republicans try to push to win election it won’t go far .
What those that have anything to do for Americans , I have no idea .
I thought politics was about what government policies would do for the people Instead of a smear campaigns against an irrelevant non politicians character .

But then again , under trump not much been accomplish under his presidency either beside doing catch phrase on libs .

Is that a reply to me lozen?

If so can you isolate for me which part you know for fact was verified data BEFORE the election that the FBI had?


I think you were a poker player correct? I think you understand you cannot Result Based Thinking to judge if an action was right or wrong after the fact. Meaning that EVEN if everything that you say proved true and accurate AFTER the election it DOES NOT mean the FBI should have acted on it, prior to the election when it was NOT known yet.

Do you understand that and agree? Do you know what reason Trump gave for firing Comey? It was because he released the Hilary in the lead up the election.

Therefore not just in general but especially in the lead up to an election the FBI must be extra cautious to review and verify any accusations in the lead up to an election, especially ones coming from the Trump camp where they are known to falsify info, before acting on it or releasing it.


lozen, do you acknowledge you are trying to use Results Based Thinking or info you think indicting that came out after the fact, to say the FBI did some terrible wrong prior to the election?

And if not then PLEASE give me the before the fact data that is informing your decision? In my umpteenth request.

No I do not

My main point is if the FBI intent was to persuade Mark Zuckerberg not to run stories on Hunter Biden because it would hurt Joe Biden they are in the wrong just as James Comey did weeks before the election with Hilary.

Did either lose the election because of it ? Nope they both ran horrible campaigns

my point is you have had for months this obsession of whatabouting the Hunter story and demonizing the FBI as if they did something wrong to benefit Joe Biden and you now admit you have nothing. that your entire belief comes from the repetition of talking points that have painted this as some incredible wrong.

Zuckerberg himself said it was not specific to the Biden stuff but a warning to be weary of misinformation in general. I would hope the FBi would caution him to that.

So what we know NOW is the FBI IS investigating the Hunter stuff, which should satisfy you and get rid of the entirety of your 'whatabout Hunter' complaint as you acknowledge you know of no facts or evidence to show they did anything wrong pre election.

The whatabout Hunter is is debunked. There is no evidence of anything wrong pre election and he IS being investigated unlike that other whatabout which is Kushner who seems to have avoided investigation despite much worse dealings.

So stop being a right dupe or shill, while claiming you are not, as you must now accept that you are. That what you care about, even with no evidence is what the right keeps pushing to you and saying 'this is a big deal and issue', when it is not. Everything that is unfolding with Hunter is doing so the way things normally do. Actually scrap that as he is getting extra scrutiny only because he is the POTUS son, and they want to avoid the appearance of special treatment. If Biden was not POTUS no one would be looking into Hunter.

[QUOTE=Cuepee;57810434]my point is you have had for months this obsession of whatabouting the Hunter story and demonizing the FBI as if they did something wrong to benefit Joe Biden and you now admit you have nothing. that your entire belief comes from the repetition of talking points that have painted this as some incredible wrong.

Zuckerberg himself said it was not specific to the Biden stuff but a warning to be weary of misinformation in general. I would hope the FBi would caution him to that.

So what we know NOW is the FBI IS investigating the Hunter stuff, which should satisfy you and get rid of the entirety of your 'whatabout Hunter' complaint as you acknowledge you know of no facts or evidence to show they did anything wrong pre election.

The whatabout Hunter is is debunked. There is no evidence of anything wrong pre election and he IS being investigated unlike that other whatabout which is Kushner who seems to have avoided investigation despite much worse dealings.

So stop being a right dupe or shill, while claiming you are not, as you must now accept that you are. That what you care about, even with no evidence is what the right keeps pushing to you and saying 'this is a big deal and issue', when it is not. Everything that is unfolding with Hunter is doing so the way things normally do. Actually scrap that as he is getting extra scrutiny only because he is the POTUS son, and they want to avoid the appearance of special treatment. If Biden was not POTUS no one would be looking into Hunter.[/QUOTE]

NO kidding but he is President and months try weeks I brought it up after the Zuckerberg interview and gave you my reasonings.

Debunked by whom CNN and MSNBC ?

As well I have said many times what Kushner did I think was criminal .

Please get the facts right



Right Wing Dupe I think Trump should go to jail. Biden won the election and those participating in Jan 6th deserve jail time .

Though if I was an American I would vote for Desantis over Biden

So what’s on the laptop?

I answered that but the only ones that really know are the FBI . I know there have been some leaks but who knows if they are true or not.

Rudy Guiliani has been given a laptop or copy of the laptop. That is def true. And then others like brannon and the one that fled to switzerland. They all have obtained copies or have at least seem some stuff.

It has also been given to some newpapers, the washingon post has seen and verified it and also the the New York Post.

Of course one of the main things the FBI is investigating is whether the laptop was accessed illegally as a vector for election disinformation,which it looks like it was.

how can it have been accessed illegally? the repair guy had Hunter sign a consent form. the guy had rights to search the thing. that is actually what Hunter paid him to do. and then he forgot to pick it up. if he doesn't pick it up in time, the laptop becomes property of the business. if he sees illegal stuff that is interfering with national interests, he thought it looked like it, he had to report it, which is what he did.


only to get stonewalled by the FBI. they tried to keep it a secret, because it would have harmed Joe Biden in the election. so much we know now. those 50 people signing it off as disinformation, I hope you acknowledge this. that were imo also fbi people. Joe Rogan talked about it, everyone talked about it. and they all say the same. it was rigged.

So yes the those thing stunk to heavens.

why do you not acknowledge this? you and QP and Trolly.

Note that they said it "looked" like disinformation