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10-27-2020 , 05:03 PM
Alright, now we're back to misusing scope, very good.
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10-27-2020 , 05:11 PM
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Alright, now we're back to misusing scope, very good.
So, the scope is what specific areas the investigation is covering?
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10-27-2020 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
So, the scope is what topics the investigation is covering?��
Not just that, no. Here's a pretty good article that's not about criminal investigations specifically, but it's a pretty good list of what all constitutes the scope of an investigation.
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10-27-2020 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Not just that, no. Here's a pretty good article that's not about criminal investigations specifically, but it's a pretty good list of what all constitutes the scope of an investigation.
But if scope includes areas of emphasis/specific areas, that's part of the scope to which the source could not elaborate on, when he said he could not elaborate on the scope.
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10-27-2020 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
But if scope includes areas of emphasis/specific areas, that's part of the scope to which the source could not elaborate on, when he said he could not elaborate on the scope.
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Imagine writing dozens of posts arguing that the sentence "Federal authorities are investigating whether a Russian influence operation was behind the disclosure of emails...a person briefed on the matter said Friday" doesn't actually mean the source told them that.
Still doing it! LOL HIV
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10-27-2020 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
But if scope includes areas of emphasis/specific areas, that's part of the scope to which the source could not elaborate on, when he said he could not elaborate on the scope.
Now you are misquoting the article.
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10-28-2020 , 07:10 AM
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The Media’s Hunter Biden Conundrum

Hence my third conclusion — that for those who feel this worry, the Hunter Biden controversy provides a clarifying case study. On the one hand, the new information is not the Biden-slaying blockbuster suggested by the New York Post headlines and some Trump supporters. But neither does it fit the description offered by NPR’s managing editor for news last week, explaining why they were only covering it as a media story: “We don’t want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories, and we don’t want to waste the listeners’ and readers’ time on stories that are just pure distractions.”
This whole piece is worth a read.
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10-28-2020 , 07:25 AM
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10-28-2020 , 07:58 AM
Hiv what exactly is your point? That media is controlled and push various agenda's and collude to squash others?

I assume yes, now please extrapolate, are you saying only "the left" do this?

Are you one of those people that think Trump is a savior? Where exactly is this line of thought going to?

I love reading when people go "WE ARE BEING MANIPULATED BY A NEARLY ALL POWERFUL MORALLY BANKRUPT CORRUPT SHADOW GOVT THAT HAS ITS TENTACLES IN OUR NEWS SOURCES AND IS LITERALLY BRAINWASHING US....THEY ALSO HAVE NO PROBLEM MURDERING PEOPLE/SILENCING PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THEIR WAY! BUT I KNOW WHO THEY ARE, IT'S THEM NOT THESE GUYS! IT'S NOT TRUMP WE DA GOOD GUYS! OUR GOOD OL STABLE GENIUS TRUMP TRICKED THESE GUYS INTO LETTING HIM BARELY WIN THE PRESIDENCY NOW HE IS SAVING US ALL!" <--------- Is this you bro?

Last edited by Eskaborr; 10-28-2020 at 08:04 AM.
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10-28-2020 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
Hiv what exactly is your point? That media is controlled and push various agenda's and collude to squash others?

I assume yes, now please extrapolate, are you saying only "the left" do this?

Are you one of those people that think Trump is a savior? Where exactly is this line of thought going to?

I love reading when people go "WE ARE BEING MANIPULATED BY A NEARLY ALL POWERFUL MORALLY BANKRUPT CORRUPT SHADOW GOVT THAT HAS ITS TENTACLES IN OUR NEWS SOURCES AND IS LITERALLY BRAINWASHING US....THEY ALSO HAVE NO PROBLEM MURDERING PEOPLE/SILENCING PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THEIR WAY! BUT I KNOW WHO THEY ARE, IT'S THEM NOT THESE GUYS! IT'S NOT TRUMP WE DA GOOD GUYS! OUR GOOD OL STABLE GENIUS TRUMP TRICKED THESE GUYS INTO LETTING HIM BARELY WIN THE PRESIDENCY NOW HE IS SAVING US ALL!" <--------- Is this you bro?

I don't think the mainstream media is manipulating the public, but there are few actual journalist left. We don't know if the Hunter Biden emails are a scandal. Why? You have NPR and others refusing to cover it, and other outlets dismissing it due to veracity concerns, while others attempt to link it to Russian disinformation, and you have social media actively preventing the story's circulation. The rationale for those excuses are not very solid.

I'm not Kel, it's not a giant conspiracy. Anti-Biden stuff doesn't sell (and potentially loses readers) outside conservative media, stories about Russia disinformation does. The fragmentation of the media has made the media more competitive for ad dollars. More and more they have to print what sells, rather than selling the news. I could extrapolate more but that's the jist. The media, NYP included, are selling narratives people want to read, not journalism. That hurts transparency and truth, which is the bedrock of journalism.

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10-28-2020 , 08:22 AM
The msm is all Fake News!! Look at all these articles I spent all day looking for in the msm to use as my sources
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10-28-2020 , 08:32 AM
You know how easy it is today to manufacture all kinds of bs "evidence" and photoediting and then also some real hacked emails and pictures, then some edited pictures too with deep fake extensions. Yes i bet if some Russian agency or Chinese or whatever wanted to plant something with the right people they can do it so efficiently to look like the real thing and have plausible deniability all over the place.

But the problem is that legitimate websites and newspapers/tv networks you know the type that instantly disqualifies the underworld of pure puke please survive 2 min viewing us of Fox news and derivatives, want to verify their sources and FBI also knows better than to fall for conveniently discovered "evidence" held for a long time as well.

This country is manipulated by so much bs lies from the right wing mfers (thanks Bannon how is prison looking soon?) out there with their top scumbag in the white house the pope of lies that you have an army of idiot hillbillies so certain of Quanon and pizzagate and that their savior is the lunatic in charge is the second coming. We dare call these morons, Christians? Are you kidding me? Would a true Christian with clean faith principles be so pathetic as to make a pact with pure evil and close their eyes to endless daily disgusting behavior by the prenazident?

This is who US has become. An apartheid of minority winning. A place that morons in the minority control election results living in some obscure backwards marching reality.

Unf*ck America! Come back to some truth! Respect your country a little more than this bs deathspiral of ignorance, ineptitude and laziness.

Last edited by masque de Z; 10-28-2020 at 08:37 AM.
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10-28-2020 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by masque de Z
You know how easy it is today to manufacture all kinds of bs "evidence" and photoediting and then also some real hacked emails and pictures, then some edited pictures too with deep fake extensions. Yes i bet if some Russian agency or Chinese or whatever wanted to plant something with the right people they can do it so efficiently to look like the real thing and have plausible deniability all over the place.

But the problem is that legitimate websites and newspapers/tv networks you know the type that instantly disqualifies the underworld of pure puke please survive 2 min viewing us of Fox news and derivatives, want to verify their sources and FBI also knows better than to fall for conveniently discovered "evidence" held for a long time as well.

This country is manipulated by so much bs lies from the right wing mfers (thanks Bannon how is prison looking soon?) out there with their top scumbag in the white house the pope of lies that you have an army of idiot hillbillies so certain of Quanon and pizzagate and that their savior is the lunatic in charge is the second coming. We dare call these morons Christians? Are you kidding me? Would a true Christian with clean faith principles be so pathetic as the make a pact with pure evil and calose their eues to endless daily disgusting behavior by the prenazident?

This is who US has become. An apartheid of minority winning. A place that morons in the minority control election results living in some obscure backwards marching reality.

Unf*ck America!
Right. The media just published that narrative in regards to the Biden emails. They know what you are interested in reading. If they didn't publish that narrative, you would go find a news organization that does.
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10-28-2020 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
We don't know if the Hunter Biden emails are a scandal. Why? You have NPR and others refusing to cover it
Haven't cared enough to follow this very closely, but for some reason I'm doubting that's why the veracity of the laptop story can't be ascertained. Surely you think a story like that would sell if it could be verified no matter who falls on which party lines, so we are back to Dem conspiracy?

I'm not D or R... think trump is a cancer and biden is near braindead, think neither is fit for president and there prob needs to be some kind of age/IQ restrictions on POTUS nominee's, sounds harsh but something has to change.

I prob fall closer to Kel in beliefs from what you responded with, prob a much milder version since you wanted that clear separation. I don't need to be convinced that they are lying to push whatever they can and also get away with it/have plausible deniability, even if it's just from honestly doing work that they were told to do, or the "facts" being so obscured that it doesn't come from a place of bad faith. I still am unsure what you are trying to say though, really seems there is a partisan reason as to what/why you are trying to convey this message of yours, I still don't get it.

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10-28-2020 , 10:05 AM
Hey HIV, nobody with any credibility is covering the story because, well, the story is complete bullshit, but also because nobody can verify anything Rudy is claiming because he won't let anyone look at the hard drive.

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On Monday, NBC News sent a letter to Giuliani and his attorney, Robert Costello, requesting a copy of the hard drive to evaluate the content and authenticity of the emails and other records.

Later that night, Giuliani questioned the lack of attention large media outlets were paying to the story. "Why is the Swamp Media covering it up so you, the American people, don't get this information?" he said in a tweet.

Costello said Tuesday that the request was under consideration by Giuliani and that it was ultimately Giuliani's decision to make.

Neither Costello nor Giuliani has followed up. Costello didn't respond to inquiries Wednesday.
So while you're here whining about the mean and unfair leftist media, you should maybe consider the fact that they have absolutely no way of vetting this story even if they wanted to.

You should also maybe take a breath for a moment and consider why it may be that Rudy doesn't want anyone to look at his source material.
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10-28-2020 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee
Hey HIV, nobody with any credibility is covering the story because, well, the story is complete bullshit, but also because nobody can verify anything Rudy is claiming because he won't let anyone look at the hard drive.



So while you're here whining about the mean and unfair leftist media, you should maybe consider the fact that they have absolutely no way of vetting this story even if they wanted to.

You should also maybe take a breath for a moment and consider why it may be that Rudy doesn't want anyone to look at his source material.
Well USA Today says FBI are investigating the labtop...FOIA? Interview the people involved in the emails? Tony Bobulinski? Right, I definitely believe they have no way to vetting it. /sarcasm.

Rudy is not the story.

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10-28-2020 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Well USA Today says FBI are investigating the labtop...FOIA? Interview the people involved in the emails? Tony Bobulinski? Right, I definitely believe they no way to vetting it. /sarcasm.

Rudy's is not the story.
What the **** is this garbage? Who said Rudy is the story? I very clearly said that nobody can look at the hard drive because Rudy won't let anyone see it.
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10-28-2020 , 10:19 AM
Also huge ****ing LOL at FOIA being some type of realistic option for journalists. It takes months to years to get anything out of a FOIA request. HIV literally just stringing random words together
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10-28-2020 , 10:25 AM
tucker carlson has claimed himself that no rational person would or should believe what is said on his show is truth..

yet we still get people posting it as evidence. it's really the perfect compliment to the laptop fake story.
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10-28-2020 , 10:31 AM
TONY BOBULINSKI
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10-28-2020 , 10:52 AM
So their closing argument is some inscrutable Tony Baloniski conspiracy nonsense, because that’s what Americans are worried about right now. gjge, Republicans. The Fox News alternative reality bubble has completely cut you off from the concerns of people who are out of work and struggling through the COVID crisis. Keep yammering about Hunter’s emailzzz, I’m sure that’s the trick.
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10-28-2020 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Well USA Today says FBI are investigating the labtop...FOIA? Interview the people involved in the emails? Tony Bobulinski? Right, I definitely believe they have no way to vetting it. /sarcasm.

Rudy is not the story.
You ever go back and read that USA Today story to find that your claim that their source "could not" elaborate on the scope of the investigation was fake news?
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10-28-2020 , 11:22 AM
If those emails turn out to be authentic communication of Hunter Biden and his associates, the national and social media would have been complicit in discrediting them with wild speculation and outright lies, irrelevant of whether or not there is a Biden scandal within them.


If I was still gambling, I'd bet they are real. Whether there is actually a Biden scandal, I don't know.
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10-28-2020 , 11:29 AM
And?

Should every half brained story by the GOP get front paged? You do realize, FOXNEWS ignores a ton of the bad press for trump that all the other MSM publish all the time. Your shocked when the new sources do exactly as they're expected to do. Look at the foxnews website, covid is not the focus when it clearly should be. ZOMG another story related to corruption of Biden.
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10-28-2020 , 11:31 AM
Ihv, the media isn't reporting on the Hunter Biden thing because it's a hoax.
When will you get it.
Or please don't tell me every accusation against HB is legit but every accusation against Trump was fake. If we accused HB of anything, Trump should be in prison right now.
I think you're smarter that.

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Just look at who's leading the investigation, Rudy Giuliani!
The guy caught with his pants down in front of the whole world. Are these the people you really want to continue to be associated with?

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