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With the Hunter Biden Expose, Suppression is a Bigger Scandal Than The Actual Story With the Hunter Biden Expose, Suppression is a Bigger Scandal Than The Actual Story

10-25-2020 , 10:40 AM
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The flow of information in the United States has become so politicized – bottlenecked by an increasingly brazen union of corporate press and tech platforms – that it’s become impossible for American audiences to see news about certain topics absent thickets of propagandistic contextualizing.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/with-t...uppression-136
I know..."but Trump"
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10-25-2020 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I know..."but Trump"
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10-25-2020 , 11:13 AM
A fairly well reasoned response to his article:

The last few years have seen a host of stories where the explosive allegation gets huge play, and then the later retraction is ignored. It seems to me that Facebook and Twitter are trying to take some steps to slow the initial 'bomb' so that there's some time to fact check things. I can't find anything in the Post stories or anywhere else to say how they authenticated the emails and other computer files. I can find numerous statements in other media saying that they can't authenticate them: https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals.../#28acd5eb9c41 And honestly, without some verification it's a bit hard to say why the Biden's should be faulted for not confirming that the hacked or stolen private documents are authentic.

The providence of the documents and the October Surprise timing give rise to reasonable suspicion. If the Post authors want to be taken seriously they can either give the materials to law enforcement to be authenticated or they can make the source materials and meta data available so that people can make an informed opinion. Otherwise tales of agents hacking, altering, and planting documents seem plausible.
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10-25-2020 , 12:37 PM
story was completely made up, got treated appropriately.. multiple news agencies including FOX NEWS, realized it was fake and refused to publish it themselves.

lol ihiv.
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10-25-2020 , 12:40 PM


What's the defense of NPR's rational?

Considering this is still up on their site:

Video Of Kentucky Students Mocking Native American Man Draws Outcry
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10-25-2020 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
story was completely made up, got treated appropriately.. multiple news agencies including FOX NEWS, realized it was fake and refused to publish it themselves.

lol ihiv.
Fake news has not stopped the media from reporting on fake **** before...

Besides, there is nothing to indicate it's fake. There is zero evidence it's fake. You propagated propaganda. Hint: Doesn't make the story true either.
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10-25-2020 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Fake news has not stopped the media from reporting on fake **** before...

Besides, there is nothing to indicate it's fake. There is zero evidence it's fake. You propagated propaganda. Hint: Doesn't make the story true either.
Stored in the archives for eternity.
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10-25-2020 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Fake news has not stopped the media from reporting on fake **** before...

Besides, there is nothing to indicate it's fake. There is zero evidence it's fake. You propagated propaganda. Hint: Doesn't make the story true either.
so your argument is that if i were to make something up and put it on the internet, every major news site should be forced to cover it, because reasons??

not a single thing has been corroborated nor does the basis of the story even make logical sense. hunter flies from LA to Delaware to get a laptop repaired at a place he's never been to before, that just happens to be friends with RUDY, who then holds onto the computer for weeks and it has a bunch of super vague emails saved to the laptop that don't actually say anything. it's obvious why all remotely real news agencies passed on the story.


also the covington story is a real story. the kid did mock the native american. THAT HAPPENED. just because it's arguable that the native american guy started it doesn't mean the story is fake.
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10-25-2020 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Stored in the archives for eternity.
Where have you been? Unsubstantiated stories have been the epitome of the news for years now. That you think I said something off kilter is crazy.
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10-25-2020 , 01:09 PM
The story stinks, couldn't even get the guy who wrote it to put his name on it. The idea that serious media is somehow ethically or politically obligated to print nonsense is absurd.

That you want there to be a discussion so that political damage is done to a politician you don't want to win an election is your concern. I would say that's a pretty bad take from someone who spends a lot of effort on this forum arguing in favor of law and order. I don't understand how law and order is a sustainable political goal without deep support for honesty.
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10-25-2020 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
so your argument is that if i were to make something up and put it on the internet, every major news site should be forced to cover it, because reasons??

not a single thing has been corroborated nor does the basis of the story even make logical sense. hunter flies from LA to Delaware to get a laptop repaired at a place he's never been to before, that just happens to be friends with RUDY, who then holds onto the computer for weeks and it has a bunch of super vague emails saved to the laptop that don't actually say anything. it's obvious why all remotely real news agencies passed on the story.


also the covington story is a real story. the kid did mock the native american. THAT HAPPENED. just because it's arguable that the native american guy started it doesn't mean the story is fake.
The veracity isn't the issue. The media has been caught with their pants down time, and time again reporting unsubstantiated stuff that turns out to be false, and we don't know if this is false. Pretending they are taking some ethical stand here based on their determination of the veracity is a lie. The withholding of reporting on this is entirely about protecting Biden. I don't see the media from publishing unsubstantiated news in the future.


Edit: this goes to Tames too.
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10-25-2020 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I know..."but Trump"
That article is too long, what's the actual issue here? That FB and Twitter are squelching the NYP story about Hunter Biden?
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10-25-2020 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Fake news has not stopped the media from reporting on fake **** before...

Besides, there is nothing to indicate it's fake. There is zero evidence it's fake. You propagated propaganda. Hint: Doesn't make the story true either.
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Stored in the archives for eternity.
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Where have you been? Unsubstantiated stories have been the epitome of the news for years now. That you think I said something off kilter is crazy.
True....but this "story" is just that; Looney Tunes for the feeble minded. For you to say NOTHING TO INDICATE IT'S FAKE...... trolololololola.

Do you need a time out?
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10-25-2020 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
That article is too long, what's the actual issue here? That FB and Twitter are squelching the NYP story about Hunter Biden?
Not just them, but mainstream media. It's pretty scathing towards NYT's and WaPo as well.
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10-25-2020 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
True....but this "story" is just that; Looney Tunes for the feeble minded. For you to say NOTHING TO INDICATE IT'S FAKE...... trolololololola.

Do you need a time out?
I felt the same he same way when the Jessie Smollet story broke, but hey, that fit a narrative, to which the media propagated endlessly.
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10-25-2020 , 01:21 PM
stay on topic, strawman.
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10-25-2020 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
The veracity isn't the issue. The media has been caught with their pants down time, and time again reporting unsubstantiated stuff that turns out to be false, and we don't know if this is false. Pretending they are taking some ethical stand here based on their determination of the veracity is a lie. The withholding of reporting on this is entirely about protecting Biden. I don't see the media from publishing unsubstantiated news in the future.


Edit: this goes to Tames too.
there's nothing about ethics involved. nor is there anything about protecting biden, other than in conservative fan fiction. it's just bad business to cover stories that you believe to be complete fabrications that you can't verify.

like in my example if i personally made up a story and sent it to all the major news networks, they aren't just going to publish it, nor should they.
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10-25-2020 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Fake news has not stopped the media from reporting on fake **** before...

Besides, there is nothing to indicate it's fake. There is zero evidence it's fake. You propagated propaganda. Hint: Doesn't make the story true either.
the average leftist still think russia influenced the 2016 election, trump is a racist sexist and he hired hookers to piss on obama's bed. their entire ideology is based on feelings rather than facts.
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10-25-2020 , 01:22 PM
What about the Ford allegations? To date nothing substantiated that allegation.
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10-25-2020 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
there's nothing about ethics involved. nor is there anything about protecting biden, other than in conservative fan fiction. it's just bad business to cover stories that you believe to be complete fabrications that you can't verify.

like in my example if i personally made up a story and sent it to all the major news networks, they aren't just going to publish it, nor should they.
Like the Jessie Smollet story?
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10-25-2020 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cephei
the average leftist still think russia influenced the 2016 election, trump is a racist sexist and he hired hookers to piss on obama's bed. their entire ideology is based on feelings rather than facts.
lol.. the right and the facts over feelings narrative will never get old. just so dumb
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10-25-2020 , 01:25 PM
Do I need to bring up Michael Avenetti?
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10-25-2020 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Like the Jessie Smollet story?
again i dont think you understand news or fake news.

jessie smollett got attacked. that really happened in real life. the motives of the attack are unclear, and smollett's version of events didnt really fit, but the attack happened. it's news. it's something that actually happened, like covington kid, and sandy hook..


the hunter biden laptop repair scandal likely never actually happened. there has been no basis in reality for any of it actually happening. its a conservative fan fiction story.
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10-25-2020 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
lol.. the right and the facts over feelings narrative will never get old. just so dumb
it will never get old because it's true. case in point:

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Originally Posted by Slighted
jessie smollett got attacked. that really happened in real life. the motives of the attack are unclear,
are you trolling? he staged the whole thing, the "attackers" were his buddies.
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10-25-2020 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
The veracity isn't the issue. The media has been caught with their pants down time, and time again reporting unsubstantiated stuff that turns out to be false, and we don't know if this is false. Pretending they are taking some ethical stand here based on their determination of the veracity is a lie. The withholding of reporting on this is entirely about protecting Biden. I don't see the media from publishing unsubstantiated news in the future.


Edit: this goes to Tames too.
Nah, that's your version of events which I don't think you have ever properly substantiated. I don't live in a cushy intellectual world which magically allows me to say "that's just a narrative!" every time my beliefs are challenged.

If you want to argue that editorial independence is important, then I would agree. But you haven't shown this here. In fact, from all available evidence that we can muster it is actually the NY Post which has shown a complete lack of editorial independence.

So go after them if this concerns you so much.
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