Oh ya, I think there's a decent bit of crossover between leo/NG/military. Obv it's probably never going to be all--but just among my family/circles of friends I see it quite a bit.

They are pretty much operating on the assumption there will be riots from what I've heard.

As if I'd ever be drinking a rosé

now do all the right wing posters that have been completely proven wrong by believing the numbers trump has been saying. and how the UNITED STATES' response is clearly a referendum on trump. oh wait, maybe you aren't as "above it all" as you want to believe. trumper

Fair enough. Eric Weinstein recently released an Epstein themed podcast he recorded after Epstein killed himself, but decided not to release until now. I was gonna bump the IDW thread when I finished.

Anyways, in that pod he talk a lot about this phenomenon he terms the DISC (distributed idea suppression complex), where our institutions prepare these preposterous narratives that don't hold up to the slightest about of scrutiny, and then they all agree to go about pretending like they are true. And individuals who point out the absurdities and impossibility these narratives could be true are given zero bandwidth and are just completely ignored and suppressed.

This is a bit of a segue, but it is basically me agreeing you are probably right, this isn't about Trump at all per se.

IMO a sane person would be able to critically deduce that both the Chinese Communist Party propaganda machine and Trump are full of **** most of the time. And not use the bullshit one is saying as part of an argument to criticize the other.

The CCP is solely responsible for this catastrophe.

Blaming Trump is pointless. Nothing he could have done would have prepared the US for what is coming. The out-sourcing of critical supplies saw to that. Something that Trump has been trying to correct ever since he got elected, by the way.

lol. joe, i consider you to be probably on of the most lost people that posts here, and i think i might still take you handling this over trump. at least you attempt to gather information and accumulate knowledge. it's 99.5% incorrect and wrong, but at least it's an attempt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6kdx-Q61l0

good time to get into running. nobody out there, just stay clear of anyone by 6 feet, should be ok. focus on the mind. reggae is good, focus on love. one love.

Yeah undermining the work of scientists and installing a post-truth regime so that every dumb**** who tries to scrape their two braincells together to make reality what they want and their mind nice and soft for their power daddy to insert whatever garbage into them, and calling it a hoax for weeks have nothing to do with the failure of the public to adopt social distancing measures to stop rapid spread.

FWIW I have a number of former colleagues in China, and life is tentatively returning to normal. There are also satellite images showing some industry has resumed, as the pollution from the factories has returned. Doesn't mean their numbers are correct, but it seems they believe they have some sort of handle on it currently.

The CCP thanks you for your support at this difficult time.

Just listening to the presser while taking a D an started thinking about who I would like to have in charge in this situation. Trudeau is probably the dumbest leader in the first world and possibly the whole world. It's totally unsettling seeing trump in charge also. It seems like life got too easy and everyone just thought welp we can elect the charming bimbo with nice hair or the angry guy with an orange pompadour and it won't matter, except maybe if a crisis occurs... nah, won't happen, everything is easy

I don't think Biden or Bernie would be a good call either. Obama seems superior to all 3. I could see hilary being better at managing the situation but I doubt anyone on the left would have taken the preventative measures that were truly needed. Obviously a national treasure like tucker carlson would be the only hope on that front. The mayors that were running seem to be failing at much smaller problems in their own neighborhood

I think the ideal president in this time frame would be a conservative that wasn't obsessed with the stock market, numbers, etc to get re elected. Trump has been focused on that as his re election message and I think that contributed to him (likely- who knows with the quality of news these days) delaying action and minimizing warning signs to avoid disrupting the markets and economy as much as possible. Both policy wise and psychologically, conservatives are tilted towards tighter borders and separation. They needed to take swift preventative action and were just too slow. Same goes for canada/trudeau/woke lib.

Corona president power rankings - realistic candidates

Yang
Hilary
Trump
Gabbard

Huge gap

Biden and Bernie tie coming in slightly ahead of Marianne Williamson

What is up with Trudeau's wife? She has corona right? Trudeau was supposed to be in quarantine but he's now back giving press conferences?

So, are the leaders of Italy, Spain, France, UK any better at this than Trump?

If you had watched the links I posted for you a week ago you'd know such curves are possible. You'd know the exact equation, and which parameter was changed!
See also the other countries which started exponential and then bent the curve down with testing and isolation. This disease is attacking governments which are incompetent or indifferent to their people. Contrary to your axioms, that's not all of them. Leadership matters:



Tough love is working where I live:

I haven't been following each country closely enough to get specific but from what I can tell the Uk might be engaging in completely disastrous experiment. I would also say that things are happening in different time frames so its hard to grade them equally. The news came out of China and each country has had a different time frame to react. Canada and the USA were far too slow but they also have had more time than Italy so it's apples and oranges imo.

I think just about every leader I'm aware has dropped the ball as far as prevention goes with news coming out of china. Prevention is clearly the most important factor. Now it's a management issue. Trump seems to be managing this fine but its going to take months of parsing fake news, actions, outcomes, etc to give him a fair grade.

Yeah, I agree everyone has been behind the 8 ball on this. Anyone following closely what was happening in Wuhan from mid January should have been extremely alarmed and making preparations.

The supply chain out-sourcing of critical supplies to China though has hindered preparations to a huge extent. That has come back to bite us in the bum big-time.

man. only if some 1st world country's intelligence service warned their executive branch about the possible coming danger on January 3rd..

*Geroge Takei voice*

Oh myyyyyy

yeah Canadian slang might be a bit behind american slang, im guessing..

Why would the china curve not be legit. Given how strong measures they have taken it would be weird if it didnt flat out. This thing is spreading quickly but its not like its measles or anything.

It seems small countries with defensible borders (island countries, Israel) that were smart enough to ignore WHO "expert" advice, which probably came straight from Beijing, and were able to secure their borders and then close them with necessary are the only ones who are gonna get through this relatively unscathed.

The fact that literally none of the relatively diverse, globalist, neoliberal countries were able to act adequately, and are all roughly in the same spot, is probably more a reflection of a "cost" of neoliberal globalism than a reflection of any specific country's policy shortcoming.

I don't necessarily trust China's initial numbers but their current numbers could be real, or close to it. They have the power to aggressively shut their people inside their homes and test them with all kinds of drugs, even without knowing how harmful or effective some of them are.

I am sure when they went full lockdown the curve flattened out. The parts which are questionable are what their actual numbers were when this eventually happened, and also all the disinformation about domestic cases being completely wiped out and active infection coming strictly from abroad.

You are a moron.