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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Fail. The presence of a fire extinguisher makes the home MORE safe.
The presence of a gun makes the home LESS safe.
Obviously there are circumstances where the home becomes more safe, but only in certain circumstances, and the gun owner must always know what he or she is doing. Therein lies the problem. You in particular or others who know their way around a gun or are clearly not idiots are less likely to have an accident, but the average person simply isn't as unlikely to have a lethal ****up. And the non idiots aren't infallible either...
The current state of gun policy in the US effectively refuses to remedy or at least attempt to improve on that.
You and anyone else who insists on white knighting the status quo cannot be taken seriously, ever, until that attitude changes
You have a fire extinguisher in your house because you have a fire producing device in your house... The presence of your kitchen makes the house more dangerous, not the fire extinguisher. And yet, the fire extinguisher itself is a dangerous tool, which can be mishandled, or suffer from defective manufacturing.
Many kids have seriously injured or killed themselves and/or their families by being allowed unsupervised access to the kitchen. Sometimes the fire extinguisher prevents those deaths, sometimes not.
(As an aside, have you ever practiced putting out a fire with a consumer fire extinguisher? Do you even know how one works, how to check to see if it will work, or whether it might be out of it's service life? Have you ever sought training for the use of fire prevention equipment? Have you assured that your family and kids know where the fire extinguishers are, and when and how to use it? You do have a couple fire extinguishers, right?)
Many people have burned down apartment buildings by failing to safely use their kitchen. It is fresh in my mind as it happened in the town near to mine just recently.
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Statistics in the USA show us that the counties with the most restrictions on gun rights tend to have the worst homicide and violent crime rates.
Statistics also show that violent crime in the USA is on a multi decade low, and that gun ownership and guns in circulation is at an all-time high.
Probably you will therefore agree that statistics are poor help with this issue.
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I insist on following the Constitution, and the laws that have been collectively agreed upon.
The process for changing the Constitution is clear, it is easy to follow, it has been done before so you don't even have to figure it out on your own. All you have to do is convince 75% of the people in flyover country to agree with you.
For the moment, tho, you don't have even a majority, let alone 75% of the states. (This is the reason why the NRA has the power it has -- it has the membership to back them up. I get it though, while it's clear many here are filled with hate of the NRA, the reality is that hate is of the NRA's members. The NRA's mission is, and goals are, btw, not "selling guns". There is an "about" page on its website which can update you if you're interested.) The People mentioned in the 2nd Amendment, are the same People mentioned elsewhere in the Constitution.
I don't take you seriously. I don't expect you to take me seriously.