Okay.

So then why pages and pages of hand wringing and sky-is-falling posts by on on this topic ?

It seems like you're good.

Ummm, you're literally saying that we can't ban guns because there are so many. 1.2 per capita means more than one per person.

Abortions require a vagina (similar to how a shooting requires a gun) so I'm just applying your standard to another topic.

Now, your reaction is reasonable. No person arguing in good faith would ever do what I just did.

Taking that reaction and expressing it with two random and unfounded accusations against me is....well, something you may not want the mods to pay too much attention to.

Are you out on a limb thinking they'd trade in a Glock 17 for whatever revolver you say is OK?

I don't think the sky's falling. At all.
I'm simply pointing out why nobody can trust people who want to ban guns when they say it's just 'some guns' they want to ban.
The inevitible conclusoin of their position is all guns, because there's no point when a tragic shooting will occur that won't trigger their desire to ban the gun.

So in this regard, the right's absolute unwillingness to give a fraction of an inch is totally reasonable and in their own self-interest.

The kid shooting up the school wasn't a responsible person with a gun. The cops who refused to enter the school weren't responsible people with guns.

No. I'm fairly confident people who bought them for personal protection wouldn't care much.

Keith was reacting to your comment.

I'm not sure what Joe is reacting to.

Twinge in his liver ?

Well yes.

If you're a deranged gun nutter who thinks he needs to walk around armed all day to be safe then it is in your best interest (according to your beliefs) to not give a fraction of an inch.

My question to you is why, if you sincerely believe that politically and practically a gun ban can never come to pass, do you feel the need to run interference for them ?

It's okay if your answer is, owning the libs. I mean, that's what you guys are programed to do. I'd be totally satisfied with that.

Why do you always place a space before a question mark? Is this a "boomer operating a phone" thingy?

lol, replacing "Good Guy With Gun" with "Responsible Guy With Gun" is bullshit semantics and you know it. Even you know this NRA talking point is bunk.

I would literally shoot you IRL for saying this.
He is sacred.

If we post good guys with guns, you say they're 'anecdotal' or 'statistically irrelevant', even though both statements would be true and just a cope so you don't have to face the other side of the issue.

The Uvalde cops were idiots, but a rural Texas police department that may as well be Tijuana isn't going to be full of high performers.

Trolly thinks that those in favor of guns want more school shootings.

Trolly officially telling us that he is no longer interested in a serious discussion about guns.

That's not what I said.

I said I only want responsible people to be allowed access to guns, and I am in favor of regulations to ensure that happens.

I can't control that when I say something you twist it into something else and then attack a premise that you made up.

you realize the same unlicensed pharmacists that sling dope in the back of nearly every bar in the US also will sell anyone a gun. so much for strict regulations.

Anyone who actually knows the group in question care to provide this dude a little insight?

Too soon ?

So the guy that threw the cheap-shot push and then backed away when he saw what he was up against, what's his penalty? He doesn't just get a free pass b/c he backed up and stopped being a threat later in the confrontation right?

Is this satire ?

I know it’s sounds crazy but there is the concept in life that we call : gradation .

Using a gun should be used in extreme cases because u might kill someone right ?

Now if u think killing people shouldn’t be that big of a deal just please stay away from Canada .
Thx .

A lot of "the group" in question has little to no firearm experience or knowledge and never will. KISS; simple is better. They were just sold on those Glocks. I mean what do they need 17 rounds for anyway. The inevitable encounter with a Viet Cong platoon climbing over their dead comrades as they drop one after another.

The only justification I can see is that in NY State you are allowed to use deadly force if you reasonably believe a person is committing a 'robbery'.

And a 'robbery' means forced stealing. So if you use force to get someone's property you are 'robbing them' and it seems like deadly force may be used against you under the law.

But...I don't know. If it's obvious to a reasonable person that this was some sort of argument that turned physical and you shoot a guy walking away in the back you likely have a shaky case.

But to the question of do they just get to walk away after they knock you down....well, of course. And then you get to file a complaint.

The fact that some of these guys are so fragile that they honestly believe anyone who touches them should be executed on the spot make us normal American men look bad.

Please understand that most of us were raised properly to act like men whenever possible. But you know, some mothers mean well but overprotect and, it's just life.

I wonder how many concealed carry permits NY state issues per year for private citizens?

Interesting. I read back through my post.... and just as I thought not once did I state that the shooter should've used deadly force in that scenario. But it is a good thing he had a gun; that did stop the initial attacker from continuing his assault.

So what should he have done after pulling out the gun? Get the license plate and call the police I would think. Hold the guy on site with the threat of shooting? Someone said that earlier.... I think that's a bad idea also.

Ummm...

If I am the armed one in that scenario, then when the guy who "threw the cheap shot", otherwise known as, 'pushing the guy' for getting in a verbal confrontation with his S.O., and then after he pushes me he stops and begins moving away, and once I pull my gun he continues moving away and i know I have the upper hand, i order him to stop while calling 9/11 and report him for assault. If he walks away despite me having a gun, oh well, I gotta hope they get him via the CCTV.

But what it is not is 'execution for a harmless push' as LOLOL says is definitely happening.