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For bahbahs clarification , I am arguing that without govt involvement , the medical costs would be even higher than they are now. Healthcare used to be even more profitable and exploitative than it is today on a profit margin basis.

I’m not measuring it against inflation, but good to see the graphs for perspective

CPI is kinda a scam but it’s still good to see

Tell me how without government prices could be higher.

Without government there is no medicaid/medicare. Anyone can "be a physician". Patents don't exist. Private insurance isn't mandated to cover the latest innovation which costs 10x and is only slightly better.

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04-29-2024 , 04:11 PM

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biggerboat

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Originally Posted by rickroll

guys, murder rates are objectively higher in poorer regions of the world, pretending like that isn't real just because it makes you sound like a bad person isn't helping anything

I don't think it matters when it comes to gun control, anyway.

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04-29-2024 , 05:33 PM

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Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by Luciom

In Canada , before universal healthcare coverage , lot of Canadians couldn’t afford to go see a doctor.
I guess it’s because it was cheaper …

https://inkspire.org/post/the-events...PAME3UjCTo3Nm0

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The Great Depression (1929-1939) sparked a high demand for a public health care system in Canada. In 1929, substantial amount (about 60%) of Canadians were not earning enough to afford adequate health care. Thus, many people did not use medical services. In the 1920s medical technology and diagnostic tools like X-Rays were being used more often, and health care became more difficult to afford. Prime Minister R.B. Bennett’s government did not increase spending for social welfare, but there was an extremely high demand for access to health care. Several sick people even sent letters directly to Bennett desperately pleading for help.

Dr. Kenneth MacKenzie spoke on the issue at the Medical Services Conference that year: “If there is an evil there must be a remedy, and that remedy, as I see it, must be some form of distribution of cost among the people at large.”

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04-29-2024 , 05:59 PM

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rickroll

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norm macdonald is my hero - you should all watch this, stick with it and let him talk it out and please ignore the stupid clickbait title, that's a shameful way of framing it in order to attract clicks on the algo

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PointlessWords

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In a 6-3 ruling on ideological lines, with the court's conservatives in the majority, the court held that an almost 100-year-old law aimed at banning machine guns cannot legitimately be interpreted to include bump stocks.

Writing for the majority, Justice Clarence Thomas said that a firearm equipped with the accessory does not meet the definition of "machinegun" under federal law.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...ful-rcna154651

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Yesterday , 11:02 AM

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wreckem713

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords

nifty! now lets overturn the machinegun ban as that is an infringement

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Yesterday , 11:03 AM

#6457

PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by wreckem713

nifty! now lets overturn the machinegun ban as that is an infringement

hell the **** yeah

this norm video is the BEST

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Yesterday , 11:05 AM

#6458

wreckem713

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords

hell the **** yeah

this norm video is the BEST

I think we can all agree Norm is the best

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Yesterday , 11:06 AM

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#Thinman

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idiot thinking.

i likely own more guns then both of you combined and am here to tell you that your thinking on the matter is idiotic.

Last edited by #Thinman; Yesterday at 11:35 AM.

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MSchu18

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Originally Posted by wreckem713

nifty! now lets overturn the machinegun ban as that is an infringement

there is no ban on Machine guns... you just need the proper paperwork to own one.

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Yesterday , 11:09 AM

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King Spew

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ah, but that is infringement MSchu

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Yesterday , 11:09 AM

#6462

PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by MSchu18

there is no ban on Machine guns... you just need the proper paperwork to own one.

paperwork and $$$$$$$$$$, which is an infringement. We might see these illegal laws struck down given the current politics of our supreme court

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Yesterday , 11:48 AM

#6463

wreckem713

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Originally Posted by MSchu18

there is no ban on Machine guns... you just need the proper paperwork to own one.

try getting a new one as an individual

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Yesterday , 11:49 AM

#6464

wreckem713

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Originally Posted by #Thinman

idiot thinking.

i likely own more guns then both of you combined and am here to tell you that your thinking on the matter is idiotic.

how many guns do I need to think correctly?

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#6465

PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by #Thinman

idiot thinking.

i likely own more guns then both of you combined and am here to tell you that your thinking on the matter is idiotic.

whats idiotic about wanting the same weapons the govt has?

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PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by wreckem713

how many guns do I need to think correctly?

guess we need to buy more guns so we can think correctly

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Yesterday , 12:12 PM

#6467

biggerboat

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So unbelievably ****ed up.

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Yesterday , 12:16 PM

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biggerboat

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I'll never get my head wrapped around the glorification of a thing who's only function is to destroy.

It's sick.

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Yesterday , 12:17 PM

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Luciom

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SCOTUS decision was about not allowing executive power excesses, in this case interpretating a law delegating power to an agency the way the Trump admin wanted.

It has nothing to do with the 2a in fact and the 3 liberals here show the common conflation of liking an outcome with applying the law appropriately.

Bump stocks can be banned/regulated (unfortunately) under the 2a, It Is Just that it is congress which should do it

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PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by biggerboat

I'll never get my head wrapped around the glorification of a thing who's only function is to destroy.

It's sick.

simple. someone is going to destroy you. You put a bullet between their eyes, and they can no longer destroy you.

you would rather they destroy us because we cant fight back.

Id rather fight back.

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Yesterday , 12:43 PM

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King Spew

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The vast majority of gun owners do not feel the same way that PW espouses.

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Yesterday , 12:53 PM

#6472

PointlessWords

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Why do you think most people that own guns have them?

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Yesterday , 01:05 PM

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AquaSwing

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I own guns because I like to target shoot and they'll be useful if I ever have to defend my family. I am not a hunter and can't imagine shooting any other living creature unless my family was under a direct threat.

Not against hunting for survival but am definitely against trophy hunting.

Also, guns should be highly regulated.

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Yesterday , 01:09 PM

#6474

King Spew

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Hunting as well as guns are fun to shoot at office products. Even (ESPECIALLY) the NRA agrees with that data point. It's not a "protection" thingy the small minority of owners want you to believe.....other than a protection from varmints like hogs etc.

Militias and double secret armies are not remotely the reason.

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Yesterday , 01:55 PM

#6475

biggerboat

you're gonna need one

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords

simple. someone is going to destroy you. You put a bullet between their eyes, and they can no longer destroy you.

you would rather they destroy us because we cant fight back.

Id rather fight back.

And yet, you encourage those people that want to destroy you to be armed to the teeth. Gjge

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