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02-06-2021 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
Certainly having a gun is going to be more effective than not having a gun, when it comes to fighting against a tyrannical government. And even if you are not successful, it is better to die trying to be free than to live as a slave.
Meanwhile you get to shoot up office products for fun.

Win/win.
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02-06-2021 , 03:21 PM
Didn't guns fire one shot and take 20 seconds to reload when these right to bear arms laws were written? The rest of the developed world has had a mass shooting at some point in their history and changed the laws accordingly. There has been 1 mass shooting in the UK since 1996 while there is one every day in the US. It baffles me that you people seem to think thats acceptable but to each their own il happily live my life without ever seeing a gun thanks.
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02-06-2021 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
This one is just funny to me. A gun malfunctions it may kill or injure the person using it and the people around the user. If a nuke malfunctions it could kill millions or way more. I like how in depth you thought of this. Just needling you bro.


Also what do you say about countries eventually toppling allowing outside forces to conquer the region if there is no resistance. All things end, even Rome.......



Also have you ever had a riot outside your house? What about a bear? What about a group of youngsters that sling narcotics from a street corner and just happen to be mad at you for whatever reason?


These are real scenarios where relying on game wardens or cops won't work out to well for you. The US is a wild land both for wildlife and the hominids. Sometimes protecting yourself is just what you got to do. I guess a spear will do, now where do I find spears?
The second and third paragraphs is just laughable. If America collapses there will be nothing worthwhile for individuals to "defend". Our new dictators will be better than whatever **** wasteland is left.
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02-06-2021 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Still hilarious that the right in the US thinks that if it ever came to an overthrow of the government that stupid small arms would even be relevant when the government has exclusive use of pretty much all the weaponry that would prove decisive in an actual conflict. And that's only at the actual battlefield level. When it comes to the command and communication network needed to coordinate operations the rebels would essentially have nothing beyond bugles and maybe light signaling. Anything else that uses a transmitter would be useless. Most modern rebels would die or be arrested before they even know who was shooting at them.

The entire idea is complete nonsense and has been since 1865. Because back then the rebels had not only guns but also artillery, explosives, cavalry, even a navy. Plus not only did they have weapons parity but they had experienced generals and line commanders to implement it all and a motivated supply infrastructure behind it all. And they still lost.
Yes the US history from the overthrow of the evil Brit Empire to establish their freedom, to the Wild West where local despotic government officials or Barons could be overthrown by citizens taking a stand against the tyranny they faced has become both a thing of fantasy and fetish to many people, today.

And while it was once possible for people to fight back, today that simply would not be the case. If the government wanted to put down all the people with guns they would systematically wipe them all out, with the only defense being to hide and thus make your gun useless.

Not saying these people could not take a handful of authoritarians out with them but they would not win.

And I think that is where the fetishizing comes in. They all image themselves in some type of 'last stand' type situation where the are the hero martyring themselves 'for God and Country' in a way they has moved them to say 'Murica, F*ck Ya' so many times while at the movies.

I honestly think so many of them imagine themselves becoming the hero of their own movie (ie Kyle Rittenhouse)
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02-06-2021 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
"Huuurrr Duuuuurrrr, but the government has got tanks and fighter jets, what're you guntards gonna do against those with your little glocky glocks?"


The guns aren't for attacking the military, they are for attacking the communist secret police that go door to door to haul you off to the FEMA camps.



“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Sir, we're just here to bring you healthcare and maybe some buds and mushrooms if you play your cards right.

You'll never take me alive commies!

Of course conservatives have cheered on people being disarmed for silly **** like cannabis arrests etc for our entire lives--while you can drink yourself into a stupor daily and be totally fine--a cop even. True freedom fighters.
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02-20-2021 , 09:13 PM
I'll just leave this here.

Three people killed, two injured, in shooting at gun store in Louisiana

Although I will say I found this line amusing:

"It appears the people involved in the shooting may have been customers, employees or individuals at the location, he said."

Or, to put it more simply: It appears the people involved in the shooting were people. That were there.
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02-21-2021 , 12:13 AM
Register guns like you register a vehicle.

Chain of custody from manufacture to destruction logged meticulously.

Set a deadline to to have all firearms in the registry. Possession of unregistered firearm carries severe penalties. Failure to promptly report lost/stolen firearms carries severe penalties.

Fees paid to register and transfer ownership of firearms are used for educating and even licensing prospective firearms owners.

"But if I register my firearm, the tyrannical government is going to know who has guns when we try to object to their tyranny". Ok, well I guess you'll have to defend yourself and your right to bear that arm.

Lots of folks out there really do have that martyrdom complex, as pointed out by previous posts in this thread.

I rather enjoy the post that brought up the context of the technology at the time of the 2nd amendment's inception. It's an important reference point.

LOL the posts about America and its constitutional conception of liberty when chattel slavery was a pillar of its agricultural economy, you can't be serious.

As for the youth "slinging" narcotics, maybe leave them alone or leave their penance to the authorities. i.e. take your romanticized, vigilante-ass home.

- a gun owner
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02-21-2021 , 03:39 PM
You antigun guys should consider the possibility that the only reason Europe hasn't gone full China labor camps on their population is that guns are yet to be confiscated in America. If Americans ever see Western governments putting people in labor camps then they are never giving up their guns, you would have to kill millions of Americans openly to do it at that point. The globalists want to confiscate the guns from the last Western holdout before they send the undesirables off to the camps.
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02-21-2021 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
You antigun guys should consider the possibility that the only reason Europe hasn't gone full China labor camps on their population is that guns are yet to be confiscated in America. If Americans ever see Western governments putting people in labor camps then they are never giving up their guns, you would have to kill millions of Americans openly to do it at that point. The globalists want to confiscate the guns from the last Western holdout before they send the undesirables off to the camps.
I'm European and own plenty of guns.
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02-21-2021 , 03:45 PM
Oh, I didn't realize Euros were even allowed to own guns, well no wonder they don't have any labor camps. Is private gun ownership allowed in all Euro countries or just some?
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02-21-2021 , 03:58 PM
I don't think it is banned in any European country that I know of. That said guns are generally regulated more heavily, at least than in the more liberal US states on gun law.

But guns generally isn't a "big thing" in my country. It doesn't make the news, it doesn't get discussed and the single politician I heard trying to bring it up as an issue on a national level was met with an overwhelming display of nothing. If there is discussion it is generally around the purpose of guns (sports shooting, hunting etc). There are enthusiasts and likely some crazies too, but it's generally a very low-key thing. There is very little cultural fetishization of guns on a national level. I have yet to meet or hear of a person whose political voting was influenced by views on guns.
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02-21-2021 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
I don't think it is banned in any European country that I know of. That said guns are generally regulated more heavily, at least than in the more liberal US states on gun law.

But guns generally isn't a "big thing" in my country. It doesn't make the news, it doesn't get discussed and the single politician I heard trying to bring it up as an issue on a national level was met with an overwhelming display of nothing. If there is discussion it is generally around the purpose of guns (sports shooting, hunting etc). There are enthusiasts and likely some crazies too, but it's generally a very low-key thing. There is very little cultural fetishization of guns on a national level. I have yet to meet or hear of a person whose political voting was influenced by views on guns.
Americans tend to struggle with the concept that their hot-button political issues (e.g. guns, abortion, religion) have been a solved problem in the majority of the civilised world for decades if not longer.
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02-21-2021 , 09:19 PM
(((globalists))) ITT.
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02-21-2021 , 09:52 PM
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Oh, I didn't realize Euros were even allowed to own guns
Not surprising. I can only imagine what you think the laws are in Canada.

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well no wonder they don't have any labor camps.
LOL.

Yup, that's all that's between us and labour camps - private gun ownership.

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Is private gun ownership allowed in all Euro countries or just some?
Maybe it's time to get outside whatever echo chamber you live in that seems to make you think the US is special in allowing private gun ownership.

Wiki certainly shouldn't be relied on as gospel on many things, but I trust it to be reasonably accurate with simple things like this:

"In a few countries, including Cambodia, Eritrea, and the Solomon Islands, ownership of firearms by civilians is completely prohibited."

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Americans tend to struggle with the concept that their hot-button political issues (e.g. guns, abortion, religion) have been a solved problem in the majority of the civilised world for decades if not longer.
This.
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02-22-2021 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
Oh, I didn't realize Euros were even allowed to own guns, well no wonder they don't have any labor camps. Is private gun ownership allowed in all Euro countries or just some?
What kind of drugs are you on, and do you have any for sale?
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02-23-2021 , 11:28 AM
Adrenochrome, and it's not for sale, you need to be part of the club.
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02-23-2021 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
Oh, I didn't realize Euros were even allowed to own guns, well no wonder they don't have any labor camps. Is private gun ownership allowed in all Euro countries or just some?
In Switzerland you have to own guns. And they don't have government-run health care. It's basically paradise.
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02-23-2021 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
In Switzerland you have to own guns.
You don't. You need to keep a service weapon at home for a period after mandatory military service, and can opt to keep it afterwards. But conscientious objection is legal and draft is only for men, so there is certainly no "have to own a gun".

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And they don't have government-run health care.
They do. They don't have a publicly owned health insurance, but insurance is mandatory for all citizens and the scope is regulated strictly by law. They also have public health institutions.

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It's basically paradise.
It's certainly great if you like the thickest possible layers of bureaucracy and a nanny state.

As general advise: Don't pick up knowledge on intricate subject matter from memes and pictures on social media. They are generally either wrong or trying to tell the 1% of a story that benefits whatever political message they are peddling.

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02-25-2021 , 12:12 PM
Watched another episode of Trafficked last night with Mariana van Zeller on National Geographic and she did a 2 hour episode on guns and Mexico
Mexico has only one legal gun store but all the guns get trafficked from the USA
It was amazing how easy it was to smuggle the guns into Mexico.
Did a big thing on Black Thursday in Mexico were they captured El Chapo's son but had to let him go or risk tons of innocent people killed by the cartel. The battle with the police and military had the cartel with 50 MM turrets on trucks
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03-17-2021 , 03:14 PM
*shoulder shrug*

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03-23-2021 , 12:57 PM
So nice to see the NRA is on top of things, making sure they got this Tweet out within hours of the shootings in Boulder yesterday.

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03-23-2021 , 01:36 PM
The genius of the NRA has been convincing millions of Americans that a guns/ammunition lobby group is actually a citizens rights group akin to something like the ACLU
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03-23-2021 , 01:41 PM
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The genius of the NRA has been convincing millions of Americans that a guns/ammunition lobby group is actually a citizens rights group akin to something like the ACLU
it's also a front for Russian money laundering and Russian political lobbying.
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03-23-2021 , 04:48 PM
Ten people shot dead in a supermarket, T&Ps and we are done with it.
Jesus Christ.
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03-23-2021 , 06:38 PM
Well Biden can do a bunch of things with Executive Orders will see if he does
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