Well the success of the western world allowed for you to be able to safely and securely post 67k times over the years. Interesting how the dominoes fall
No I just picked my parents properly. if I done worse I would be a dead Iraqi.
if I done better then I would be the son of Senator with an amazing penis who smokes crack and gets foot jobs and ****s my dead brothers wife. its all relative.
I donÂ’t think it would work. But thatÂ’s not the point. Just because it wouldnÂ’t work doesnÂ’t mean the right should be ignored.
Sounds like the people that want to get rid of guns are trying to convince people the tyranny argument is no longer valid therefore making it irrelevant.
ThatÂ’s kinda ****ed up, donÂ’t you think?
Yes I feel the tyranny every day
people , well i do think i represent small % at least, arent asking to get rid of guns, just that guns that can kill dozens of people + every 15 sec for 1 min straight shouldnt be allowed without extreme restriction for the sole purpose of tyrannical government .
But gun should definitely be allowed to defend yourself but it doesnt take guns that today are responsible for mass shooting.
BUT .........you know what, i call you out on your BS !
2nd amendment to defend against tyranny ?
ok. what does that mean exactly ?
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tyranny, in the Greco-Roman world, an autocratic form of rule in which one individual exercised power without any legal restraint. In antiquity the word tyrant was not necessarily pejorative and signified the holder of absolute political power.
Lets see.
- Not defending the US institutions but instead trying to discredit them (FBI,judicial system, election process,etc)
- Not defending the US democracy , trying to overturn a democratic election just because we didnt like the result.
- Trying to not make the law applicable to them.
- Saying the ****ing consitution
(u know the one u defend for your second amendments) should be suspended !
"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote."
Now if that is not someone trying to have all the power to himself,
without being subject to law and even trying to overturn an election,
what the fack is it then ?
where were you with your guns against trump tyrannical actions ?
where was the republicans and still are ...?
they freakn defend and support a tyran because he sounds good to their liking .
So dont tell me the bs about defending vs domestic enemies when u have someone directly in front of u not respecting democracy and ready to suspend the consitution ffs.
No instead of fighting him they facking support him !
The only good news in all of this is at least fox news about to pay a freakn load of money ....
But stop your bs tyrannical government, it is not about that, it is about IF u dislike a government policies enough , regardless it was rightly elected or not !
ps: and the worst is trump admire another tyrant in putin, and others....
you know american enemies for 50-70 years plus ?
military gun to defend againsnt domestic enemies ? jfc its right in your face.
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I would be curious if other gun owners share your beliefs that that is an example of a responsible gun owner.
I don't. Anyone that's ever been to the range even one time will see the range officers yapping at people for being idiots with firearms, and that's after they had to study the range rules (basic firearm safety) before getting a lane, so the idea that people can do dumb stuff and be responsible so long as a negligent discharge doesn't happen is silly.
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So you're misreading my original statement...whether intentional or not, I don't know.
I specifically said that a gun must be USED in the commission of the crime in order for the mandatory 25 year sentencing. Simply possessing it, whether it be in a purse or glovebox or wherever, does not equal use of said gun in a crime.
Nah, you said any crime committed with a gun.
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Crack down on ANY crime committed with a gun. Mandatory 25 years on top of whatever the sentence would be. No leniency or deals for those offenders.
If someone drives onto a school parking lot with a gun in the glove, that is a crime committed with a gun. I know you'll probably disagree with that, but remove the gun from the glove and the cop is writing a ticket for whatever reason he or she pulled the person over for; if there is a gun in the glove, yo ass is going to jail.
I’m going to blow your mind here… I think anyone that doesn’t own a gun as an American is irresponsible.
Irresponsible gun owner sounds like the beginning of infringements to me. I don’t really think that’s an idea anyone should pursue.
Ty for your opinion
Well until the 2nd amendment is changed, making any kind of limits is illegal.
This isn’t about personal safety. It’s about the nation being able to resist all enemies , both foreign and domestic. It’s about having a responsibility to resist tyrannical governments.
Do you guys forget how America came to be? Ever heard the phrase “ you have a responsibility to over throw corrupt governments?”
If the military has it as normal use then so should we
I guess I'm the most outspoken one here on this topic but I absolutely believe this is pure masturbatory fantasy these days. It doesn't matter how many guns you have, if the government ever turns the country into a complete police state you guys will get swatted like flies. Your gun stash is in no way helping to maintain democracy. As such, the benefit/harm ratio is not in favor of guns.
This is also not to mention the fact that should true authoritarianism come to the U.S. it's far more likely to be the right that takes power with the gun owning population much more likely to be aligned with that power than against it.
I agree with the above post. I don't mind respectful gun ownership, but a lot posted in this thread is wannabe "Red Dawn" LARPing that would have zero match with reality if that ever happened. I also think some people in this thread are so obsessed with their guns that they put a much different set of values of being responsible with them than they would with other equivalent aspects of life.
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I’m going to blow your mind here… I think anyone that doesn’t own a gun as an American is irresponsible.
Why would that blow my mind? This thread has some gun owners that respect their weapons, some that love their weapons, and some that are in love with their weapons, or a term I heard recently - an ammosexual.
I get that part of the gun crowd thinks pointing loaded weapons at neighbors houses where their kids play is part of being responsible (ie: you are protecting the area from potential invaders and such), and I was happy to see some share their beliefs once they got past all their emotional histrionics.
What I still have not seen is how some of the more rational, respectful gun owners consider the ammosexuals. I have asked a few times but got no real reply so I assume it is more of a parallel play situation for now between them.
I agree with the above post. I don't mind respectful gun ownership, but a lot posted in this thread is wannabe "Red Dawn" LARPing that would have zero match with reality if that ever happened. I also think some people in this thread are so obsessed with their guns that they put a much different set of values of being responsible with them than they would with other equivalent aspects of life.
Why would that blow my mind? This thread has some gun owners that respect their weapons, some that love their weapons, and some that are in love with their weapons, or a term I heard recently - an ammosexual.
I get that part of the gun crowd thinks pointing loaded weapons at neighbors houses where their kids play is part of being responsible (ie: you are protecting the area from potential invaders and such), and I was happy to see some share their beliefs once they got past all their emotional histrionics.
What I still have not seen is how some of the more rational, respectful gun owners consider the ammosexuals. I have asked a few times but got no real reply so I assume it is more of a parallel play situation for now between them.
And we also got mommas boys who think it’s their place to make judgements on who is what.
Well until the 2nd amendment is changed, making any kind of limits is illegal.
Incorrect. What arms one can possess has already been LEGALLY limited, and thus it can be LEGALLY limited further. I cannot possess a nuclear arm, even though I’d like to arm myself with one.
Incorrect. What arms one can possess has already been LEGALLY limited, and thus it can be LEGALLY limited further. I cannot possess a nuclear arm, even though I’d like to arm myself with one.
Try again.
Surely we can find a reasonable compromise.
But idiots want to ban all guns because mom said they were bad
You just need to use the term neeeeeeeeeerd to complete the retro trifecta of personal attacks. Definite quality of a responsible gun owner!
Anyway, you should spend more time preparing to protect your neighborhood from "thugs" and potential evil governments (in case the Brits try to take back their territory), and especially those Democrats who control everything with their super duper clever schemes.
You just need to use the term neeeeeeeeeerd to complete the retro trifecta of personal attacks. Definite quality of a responsible gun owner!
Anyway, you should spend more time preparing to protect your neighborhood from "thugs" and potential evil governments (in case the Brits try to take back their territory), and especially those Democrats who control everything with their super duper clever schemes.
You just need to use the term neeeeeeeeeerd to complete the retro trifecta of personal attacks. Definite quality of a responsible gun owner!
Anyway, you should spend more time preparing to protect your neighborhood from "thugs" and potential evil governments (in case the Brits try to take back their territory), and especially those Democrats who control everything with their super duper clever schemes.
All the best.
What about the Chinese or Russians. Or the cartels
Sure, you arm yourself up so that you can take all of those entities down when needed. Easy Peasy. Apparently you can also point your loaded guns at your neighbor's house (you know, to protect them and the hood) as a responsible ammosexual.
Do not bother with the recent remake, it was junk. Watch the 1984 movie. It was made during the cold war and represents that era well. Yeah, Cuba invading was even pretty silly then, but they worked with the political environment, and it was hardly meant to be "realistic."
That movie will be an epiphany for you because pretty much all the things you fantasize/imagine would happen if an invading force attacked the USA are shown in the way you would want. Obviously in reality the rebels would get stomped without effort, but it is a movie, and one you will really enjoy and pump your fists to over and over. Not being sarcastic here - the fact someone like you has not seen that movie, which is made (albeit in a different era) for exactly you is strange. Watch it and you will see why.
You can also check out a show called Doomsday Preppers. I only saw a few episodes and they were entertaining as they dealt with people that were clueless (ie carrying a 36 roll of toilet paper along with their get out of here fast go bag), and also the complete opposite ultra paranoid people who had weapons everywhere. One gentleman (with the most tired looking wife ever) had knives taped under tables all over his house so he could deal with marauders. Got awkward when they then cut to the hospital as their young child got a serious laceration that required a lot of stitches due to one of those prep knives sticking out from under a table. Needless to say the father was not deterred, he said he just needs to be a bit more careful how he tapes his dozens of knives around the house.
Funny because I see leftist morons who want to drastically change everything and ban guns as just as insane
Maybe best that we're not all armed to the teeth if we view each other as insane. This Daniel Perry murder case would likely never have happened if both parties weren't armed.
Maybe best that we're not all armed to the teeth if we view each other as insane. This Daniel Perry murder case would likely never have happened if both parties weren't armed.
Well you can always move to another country. Don't know why you choose to live in one with a 2nd amendment. Or just stick to CA or NY or wherever you live.
I live in Germany now but lived most of my life in the NYC area. I didn't leave for political reasons and my opinions on guns predated the move. You are right that I wouldn't live in an area of the U.S. with lax gun laws. I would prefer other people weren't getting shot either though. My opinions on guns aren't motivated solely by my own personal desire for safety.
Well you can always move to another country. Don't know why you choose to live in one with a 2nd amendment. Or just stick to CA or NY or wherever you live.
No clue how I posted it in other news my stupidity
Do you think gun safety training makes guns safer for all those that do not own one and those that do?
No clue how I posted it in other news my stupidity
Do you think gun safety training makes guns safer for all those that do not own one and those that do?
yeah sure. I'm sure people being knowledgeable about gun safety increases the safeness of guns. i don't see why it wouldn't.
Most "gun nuts" are incredibly safe with their guns. Go to any gun store or range and there is an incredible amount of safety. They don't like people fn around or acting stupid.
Funny because I see leftist morons who want to drastically change everything and ban guns as just as insane
Yeah, I get your perspective and that represents a change from the cold war era (when that first Red Dawn was made). At that time Russia was the big baddie, and the movie reflects that. People like you hated Russia then. They were the enemy.
These days that has changed. Many within the ammosexual community regard Putin and Russia as good guys or perhaps anti-heroes. The current baddies are the Democrats/liberals/leftist woke people. Thus, when you watch it (and you really should, you will enjoy it) you need to keep in mind that much of it represents a different era in the USA. As well, movies made then usually feature high school kids that look too old because they often used 25-35 year olds to play the part. Best to not be distracted by that if possible. Watch it and let me know what you think. I will be genuinely surprised if you do not like it. Wolverines!!!!!
