You struggle to understand things. I get that. Trump was not actually wrong that playing golf all the time (like constantly through a pandemic where hundreds of Americans die for every hole you play). He also was not wrong that trying to do everything by executive order is crazy and incompetent.

Everyone with any sense knew Trump was a pathological liar before he was ever elected. The issue here is that Trump is going beserk with executive orders because his ability to govern is wholly impotent. He plays golf at a pace that puts him in a class all by himself and is managing to three putt on the graves of Americans.

Glad I could help you understand what is going on.

It amazes me that Americans blame trump for their covid woes but get angry when someone says "China Virus." CCP Virus is the best name for it given they lied about it, covered it up, and sent sick people to all ends of the earth. That's a crime against humanity but some westerners can only hold one thought in their brains "TRUMP BADDD DURRR"

You know her brand is pretty much based on knockoffs, right?

https://www.businessinsider.com/ivan...designs-2017-6

Many just roll their eyes and think how much better Whitmer, Hogan and Dewine are at their jobs than the 3 stooges of Trump, Pence and Kushner. Just clownish noise from defenders of an administration that itself has largely given up.

Maybe if Trump hadn't been briefed on the situation in early January and known full well that China was understating the severity of the virus this might be a reasonable argument. In reality of course he was briefed and instead of taking any action continued to heap praise on Xi and China's handling of the situation despite being told repeatedly that the numbers from China weren't reliable and that there was a real danger of a global pandemic.

Yes, the Chinese government made the situation far more difficult than it could have been for the entire world but that doesn't in any way excuse the atrocious response from the US, and Trump in particular, especially given the fact that the administration was perfectly well aware of the fact that China was covering things up.

He was briefed but they were lying.

I know he should have done better. But most of the world didn't expect this to be a real problem because China wasn't forthcoming. Asia got hit bad with SARS but the US has never experienced something like this since the Spanish Flu.

It’s not like anybody should have been surprised by China lying and not being forthright on the severity and danger to the world. They did the same exact thing with SARS. Trump was late to the game at every stage because he was desperate for election year confessions on the trade war and therefore subservient to Xi. It backfired spectacularly.

I'm completely baffled by why you think him knowing because he had been briefed on the situation is somehow inconsistent with China lying. Do you think the US president gets briefings on national security issues from China? The president was briefed based on reports from US intelligence and those briefings included the belief that China was significantly understating the severity and global risk of the situation.

As for past experience, the H1N1 pandemic was more recent, originated in North America, and actually had characteristics more similar to the current SARS-Cov-2 strain than SARS did (lower lethality but higher contagion).

How do you feel about the fact Trump conspired with Xi to cover up the virus in the early days?

Shouldn’t we provide proper credit for the virus and call it the “Chinese Trump Virus”? Trump has taken control of the virus and given it a home to spread unabated. Give credit where credit is due, I say.

Ess you know nobody here thinks China is anything less than a bad actor right? The dispute here is you are pushing this crazy mythology that Trump is the only main to rein them in. Instead Trump facilitates then at every turn.

We could not draw up a worse leader to deal with China right now if we tried. I suspect it’s 20-1 that Trump could identify China on a blank map.

Do you know what a pathological liar is?
Do you accept that Trump is a pathological liar?
Do you think all politicians are pathological liars?
Do you think it's a problem that Trump is a pathological liar?

Um, I could give you one. His name's Biden.

Are you aware that Trump set up a taskforce of experts to manage the response in January and also was one of the first to restrict travel from China? That looks like taking action to me.

Even Joe Biden’s four month old grandchild would do a better job.

He also ate ten harmberders, five cokes, and played a lot of golf.

All equally effective actions towards covid.

Son, I am disappoint.

I'm still not sure of any specific action that came about as a result of the task force - the constant message from the administration was that taking action was the responsibility of the states and the federal government ended up not so much helping as competing with the states when it came to securing supplies of ppe. When they did at least create some very basic guidelines Trump himself ended up contradicting them regularly.

As for the travel restriction, it applied only to non-US nationals and as such had a fairly minimal effect. If he took other preparatory action that small effect could have been useful but instead he was still saying it wasn't a problem in the US and publicly praising China, including explicitly denying that they weren't being transparent when questioned, for weeks after the travel restrictions and at least a month after he had been told that they were covering up the extent of the spread.

Having said all this, it would be largely excusable if the handling of the situation actually improved over time. Instead Trump continued to downplay the problem even while tens of thousands of people were dying and is still insistent on potentially catastrophic policies such as enforcing the reopening of schools and absolving businesses of liability if their negligence in requiring employees to work in situations that expose them to the virus causes harm.

Well, they botched the roll-out of the testing. That was one specific action. Once they got behind with that it was basically all over as far as controlling the spread. Not only that but Fauci admitted that Trump carried out all their recommendations at the time, regarding mitigation strategies. So, do you blame Trump for the failures of his experts? I'm not so sure.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...g-restrictions

Trump muzzled his taskforce and insisted they only speak fawningly of him and his response.

Hmmm, let's see.

Two people on planet earth think Trump has done a good job.

He said it in a TV interview (he was not misquoted) then Trump threatened to fire him and he retracted.

LOL

Can you provide proof to support this claim please?

From your link