While I agree with you, I would say that 'Conservative Standards' are largely what have defined the age an adult women can consent and also the definition of what qualifies as 'illegal sex trade work' to include any buying of 'gifts' flights', 'meals' or anything of value to entice a women into sex.


While I may agree that some age distinction might be justified, in the form of gap restrictions (a 17 can have sex with a 20 year old but not a 40 year old), which of us males has not used such 'gifts' a way to endear ourselves to a female in the hopes we get sex back???

By strict definition it is all prostitution regardless of age and i think that is all born of 'conservative standards'.

These laws are always weird and arbitrary. No way around that.

They tend to infantilize young and old women alike in an attempt to protect them from male abusers.

I think we all find incredibly creepy the male predator types who might actually prey on women in various forms of vulnerability. The young 16 year old who might have been rejected by her family and some creepy 40 year old guy sees he can use that and tell her what she needs to here to gain her trust and sleep with her.

Such cases create a revulsion, as we recognize the experience gap and how manipulative it can be and try to translate that into laws which often then trap situations that others might not find so egregious.

Yes, ages of consent vary across the world and they vary across US states. No, I don't think it is weird that sexual trafficking is illegal, let alone sexual trafficking of minors.

This is allegedly about sexual trafficking, which is not really the same as prostitution.

Yeah, that's like an evangelical politician getting divorced or having an affair. It's so common now it barely rates as a scandal. Gaetz is alleged to have abused his position, possibly made fake IDs via his access to FL state facilities through another elected official and if true it definitely warrants a look into why he needed fake IDs to begin with. All sorts of potential crimes there. Miles away from simply not living up to a code of ethics you are forcing on other people. This is potentially serious crime.

https://youtu.be/QpDIJHWg0Pw

If Rep. Gaetz is guilty of the alleged criminal behavior, then you are quite correct.

Vancouver has one of the most repulsive sex markets I've ever seen.

Explain?

At least it did twenty five years ago. 16 year olds on the corner. Lots of them.

Due Process Is Good, He Said Controversially: Gaetz, Greenwald, and accusations in the Twitter age
Matt Taibbi has an article out-- an interview with GG actually-- about the reaction to Greenwald's article that people can look at or not.

if only people knew what "due process" was. it's right up there with "free speech" censorship.

eta- he does one paragraph on the obvious hypocrisy of GG between biden and gaetz and his take is "come on." literally. that's it.

Are they still arguing somehow that Gaetz is not getting due process because of the 'reporting', while ignoring what the DOJ is doing in a very, step by step methodical process? That this needs to stop?

Are they still trying to rationalize and excuse GG calling for ever more freedom of the Hunter Biden/Joe Biden garbage as needing to be allowed to continue and any "perceived sensoring" of it is wrong?

Are we still doing the cognitive dissonance dance?

You have to try reading both the Greenwald and Taibbi articles if you want to understand them.

I think the basic gist is we're all supposed to be outraged that various news sources are publishing factual information with questionable headlines. Because that's not something that's been taking place for 300 odd years.

Oh and that obviously MT and GG are two of the only 'real journalists' left out there.

It's always projection when it comes to republicans. ALWAYS.

Qanon is CONVINCED they can find and expose wide scale pedophilia in the Dem party as they KNOW it is widescale and accepted, just below the surface, in the Republican party. They know there is a willful blindness to it.

Trump and Republicans are always so convinces Dems must be cheating at elections as they are actively doing everything they can to cheat.

In my personal experience the people always the most concerned about a cheating spouse despite no overt evidence were the ones out quietly cheating themselves.


Joshua Duggar of ‘19 Kids and Counting’ Pleads Not Guilty to Child Pornography Charge

Mr. Duggar was featured in his family’s reality show until 2015, when the show was taken off the air after allegations that he had molested girls. He was also active in conservative politics.











(EDIT : if this type of story is a little too political and hard core for this thread feel free to move it to PooFlinger or wherever else appropriate. I kind of like this thread being more for 'other' than hardcore political stuff but was not sure where else to put it)

Interesting. But while I agree with you that there seems to be a great deal of projection with Republicans, "ALWAYS" is pretty silly, and I don't think Duggar being involved in conservative politics is particular meaningful other than being a rather ugly data point.

Ok agreed.

But if you heard a republican accusing someone or something, I think the safer bet is ALWAYS to bet they are doing that thing than not. And I am serious about that one.

For me it would depend on the Republican, but I'd agree that could be the case with some.

I think the 'type of republican who makes public accusations', which are the only ones we will really know of, are the type who are more likely doing that stuff themselves.


I feel the same about religious people who are very public in their condemnation of 'gays' 'pedophilia', etc. Safe bet they are engaging in same.

'It's all projection' should be the ultimate self-own. But 'they all lack empathy' is even better imo

https://www.msnbc.com/gibson-reiser/...p-111203909773

Given how widespread homophobia is among religious fanatics (and anyone making public condemnations would be 'hardcore'), statistics would indicate that your assumption is incorrect. It's almost universal among these people and they can't all be gay.

I think you're basing this on the few well-known cases rather than reality.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-...s-111669317828

Uh oh - Wonder if he's sweating yet?

Gaetz ally plans to plead guilty and cooperate with prosecutors

https://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhl...n-111949381608