The bolded below, which you missed, is the key to my point and key to any statistical analysis.

There is not a massive amount of 'religious people' 'who get that very PUBLIC voice and are loudly condemning gays, pedophilia, prostitution, etc and yet we have seen numerous examples from that bucket who fail that test and are doing the things they are decrying.

I would bet statistically it is a very significant percentage being the pool is not that large and examples are numerous.

Bear in mind that "Anti-gay preacher caught with thai ladyboy" makes for excellent headlines. It may happen more than is statistically expected, but you've got to take media sensationalism into consideration.

Is this the "hey I wanna party with Matt Gaetz" thread?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-ma...t-job?ref=home

This is interesting. According to the Daily Beast article, Mr. Greenberg wrote "Food" in the memo field of a $300.00 Venmo payment to one of these women. I suppose he and Congressman Gaetz must have been eating p***y along with the cocaine they were snorting.

Not sure how much of this Matt will get nailed with.

It seems his cooperating coconspirator was the one doing the bulk of illegal or quasi-legal things. Using gov't fake jobs as a way to pay his escorts so he would not have to be out of pocket, etc.

If they get Matt, I think it will be because one gal was unknowingly 17 at the time or perhaps some interstate drug thing.

It goes to show what poor judgement he has beyond his bad predilections and choices that he stayed so close to a guy who I am sure he knew was crossing many legal lines. If he thought, 'it was him doing the illegal things and not me, so I am ok.' he really is a fool.

As a politician and a controversial one at that you need to put layers between you and any 'friends' like that.

It’s the exact opposite man. He probably thought being a controversial politician would protect him from any blowback on this. And he’s probably right.

If he was some random dude using Venmo to pay for possibly teenage hookers, the Feds would probably be a lot more likely to charge him based solely on the word of Greenberg and a few texts. As it is, they’re going to have to be 1000% sure before doing anything. Doesn’t seem too likely, imo. Gaetz 2022!

Gaetz is the real life Jonah Ryan

NSFW

An interesting discussion with the two Daily Beast reporters digging in to the Joel Greenberg / Matt Gaetz investigation begins at the 29:18 second mark of this "The New Abnormal" podcast.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR...AAAAAQAQ&hl=en

If this winds up going to trial, it will be popcorn time indeed listening to all these young women on the witness stand testifying to their "partying" with Greenberg and Gaetz. Another interesting question: What does Kevin McCarthy do if/when Gaetz is indicted? A cynic like me supposes Minority Leader McCarthy will elevate Matt Gaetz into the leadership as he so represents "Conservative Republican Values" as opposed to that heretic Liz Cheney.

"controversial" sure. Illegality, no.

That it was under Trump's DOJ that these investigations got triggered is proof he thought his 'immunity' would extend far further then it actually did, especially if there was a change in regime.

But to your point i do think that had Trump won a second term, Barr would have taken control of the investigation and then said 'we have investigated and find nothing here' to clear Gaetz.

The AG cannot or should not stop an investigation that gets spawned in a district office. It will look like a cover up. And often the way to 'kill these' is to allow them and then just 'insufficient' as he did with the very clear inside trading allegations against Kelly Loeffler, a Trump favorite. Or his preamble and dismissal of the Mueller investigation.

Better to let them run and kill them that way. Unfortunately for Gaetz, Trump lost and Barr is out.

60 pages of receipts.

Do the feds ever wrap this Gaetz and his young hookers thing up? You would think the people who are assigned to the case, for what I'm guessing is >18 months would get sick of it, and want to wrap it up.

"Texts show Joel Greenberg arranging for him and Matt Gaetz to meet a woman who 'usually' requires '$400 per meet,' report says. Greenberg reportedly arranged a meet-up between himself, Gaetz, the woman, and her friend."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ocid=Peregrine

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...shrug-n1276641

As daughter sought state license, Noem summoned agency head

...Just days after a South Dakota agency moved to deny her daughter’s application to become a certified real estate appraiser, Gov. Kristi Noem summoned to her office the state employee who ran the agency, the woman’s direct supervisor and the state labor secretary.

Noem’s daughter attended too.

Kassidy Peters, then 26, ultimately obtained the certification in November 2020, four months after the meeting at her mother’s office. A week after that, the labor secretary called the agency head, Sherry Bren, to demand her retirement, according to an age discrimination complaint Bren filed against the department. Bren, 70, ultimately left her job this past March after the state paid her $200,000 to withdraw the complaint....

..“The Associated Press is disparaging the Governor’s daughter in order to attack the Governor politically – no wonder Americans’ trust in the media is at an all-time low,” spokesman Ian Fury said.

Still, government ethics experts who reviewed the series of events at the AP’s request said Noem’s decision to include her daughter in the meeting created a conflict of interest regardless of what was discussed.

While Peters was applying for the certification, Noem should have recused herself from discussions on the agency, especially any that would apply to her daughter’s application,...

...“It’s clearly a conflict of interest and an abuse of power for the benefit of a family member,”...

I find that type of MSM reporting very irresponsible.

It is exactly what lead to Trump being able to claim nothing burgers time and again for the litany of abuses he did that would have had any other POTUS impeached and likely jailed.

As these investigations play out slowly over time the MSM media plays up the most sensational aspects and debate them as the likely path and when real offenses and crimes invariably come out that are lower they claim 'exoneration' and the appetite for prosecution is not there as it seems to many the process was abusive and a witch hunt.

At this point we should not expect Gaetz will be charged with anything because the one key witness will not be enough due him being tainted (now a felon) just as Michael Cohen being guilty and pointing to his co-conspirator ("Individual #1") is not enough to charge Individual #1 with the crimes where guilt is already established.

Gaetz is certainly a reprehensible human being. But he may have just skirted the edge of the law enough (letting the other guy enact all illegal things) that a Prosecutor can see no path to charging him, that would not be political. Not without some iron clad other verification, the likes of which we have no info on yet and thus why this new piece speculating without it, is irresponsible imo.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...probe-n1282157

So the guy who allegedly wanted to kill Gaetz has been arrested. I wonder how much this will embolden the far right extremists? Very concerning to me

Pedophile? Who?

I think he is talking Bill Clinton ???

I was gonna say, it couldn’t be gaetz. The girl was 17. One year older than the legal age of consent in my state

Just FYI, age of consent in Florida is 18

I think it was the crossing of state lines that made it illegal. Gaetz is scum but if were talking alleged child rape Clinton is a fair conversation as well

So? Doesn’t make him a pedo. What’s your point?