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06-20-2024 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
6 again, doesn't understand things - fails to understand what basic phrases like "tens of thousands" means and instead just leans on "woah there's two plurals there, that's a really big number" which is not wrong but it's not right for the reasons he thinks it is
This is gold.
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06-20-2024 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
7 literally mispronounces words that he says like a good dozen times - can't remember them all but there were a lot, remember him calling it "yom kipper" several times - which is the canary in the coal mine to show he never engages in intellectual discussions with educated/intelligent people but just blathers his incoherent nonsense to a bunch of stupid and uneducated rubes like he did in this podcast to roseanne
Shibboleth, even.
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06-20-2024 , 09:24 AM
rickroll,

You are doing some admirable hard hat work in this thread.

I remain astonished that you had the patience to listen to that entire thing.
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06-20-2024 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
rickroll,

You are doing some admirable hard hat work in this thread.

I remain astonished that you had the patience to listen to that entire thing.
Agree one billion percent (which is obviously nowhere near as many as tens of thousands of percents, but it's still a lot).
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06-20-2024 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
i don't want to go back and revisit it - he's largely without a narrative though just bouncing back and forth and all his major gotchas hang on very speculative lynchpins such as "you can see the soldiers are walking around, real soldiers don't walk - therefore they are paid actors - therefore it was all fake"
You left out the most important part which is that they were all wearing non-regulation uniforms, they were dressed sloppy and weren't even all dressed the same (just like byden's current security detail as pointed out by people who actually worked inside the CIA on the same type of VIP security details).

He goes over it in detail on page 57.

https://thedocuments.info/Payload/Pa...hnson%20v2.pdf

byden also promised to close gitmo when he was elected. Obama signed an executive order to close it but when Trump because President he rescinded it. Why hasn't byden followed up and re-closed it? Instead, it recently went through a big expansion which included a bigger jail just for senior citizens.

Special Forces have also been going in and out of gitmo regularly, just like this recent flight from South America (if you look up the reg it will come back to U.S. Special Forces). The guy above him is GTMO845 who goes back and forth from South Florida to gitmo multiple times pre day. Looks like they've been pretty busy down there.


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06-20-2024 , 10:50 AM
PB,

Is Biden taking orders from the true POTUS, Donald Trump?
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06-20-2024 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
PB,

Is Biden taking orders from the true POTUS, Donald Trump?
byden
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06-20-2024 , 11:16 AM
PB,

Care to address any of the other points rickroll made, or are you just changing the subject to Gitmo with no segue at all? Sounds just like something rickroll described Derek as doing, now that I come to think of it...
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06-20-2024 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
PB,

Is Biden taking orders from the true POTUS, Donald Trump?
according to the podcast yes he is, but he also isn't and is the enemy - it's hard to keep track
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06-20-2024 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
according to the podcast yes he is, but he also isn't and is the enemy - it's hard to keep track
I don't know what's happening on the inside because we're all just outsiders, but he seems to have a lot more connections than I do (traveling regularly to Mar a lago, getting invited to gitmo, etc.) so maybe he's right but that's not my view.

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Originally Posted by d2_e4
PB,

Care to address any of the other points rickroll made, or are you just changing the subject to Gitmo with no segue at all? Sounds just like something rickroll described Derek as doing, now that I come to think of it...
Most of the other points were about the messenger and his vocabulary.
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06-20-2024 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
Most of the other points were about the messenger and his vocabulary.
Not just his vocabulary, but also his inability to weave a coherent narrative. If nobody can understand wtf you are talking about, that is not just a failure of vocabulary.
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06-20-2024 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
You left out the most important part which is that they were all wearing non-regulation uniforms, they were dressed sloppy and weren't even all dressed the same (just like byden's current security detail as pointed out by people who actually worked inside the CIA on the same type of VIP security details).

He goes over it in detail on page 57.

https://thedocuments.info/Payload/Pa...hnson%20v2.pdf
pure hearsay - i can't give benefit of the doubt to a raving lunatic just because he says "those are not regulation uniforms = therefore fake"

more importantly, he doesn't give any motive for it

nor does he address the logistics that it'd be easier for a fake president to just ask some members of the armed forces who don't know any better to send him a band than to hire actors to pretend to be the military and all the actors stay silent about it and all the military keep quiet and don't say "hey that's not us"

nor does it make sense, if biden is the fake president, he can only do so if the military allows it, so why would they agree to have this super secret president and go along with that but then refuse to provide a band?

again, this all hinges on him seeing a photo of a uniform and stating - "no that's not regulation" - again, from the opinion of someone who is not in the military - yet we're supposed to "trust me bro i used to serve" which would be immaterial to his credentials but also should point out is also hearsay





no sources, nothing, just a trust me bro and links to soldiers wearing different uniforms, which is not proof of anything other than there are a variety of uniforms

also lol at his "documents" it looks like a scrapbook made a teenager - dude is literally too stupid and uneducated to make anything professional looking



but it got me thinking, last time i was at a mickey d's the uniforms were not the same as in this picture



is my mcdonalds a fake one operated by the deep state?

omg, which one is the real mcdonald's??????




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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
byden also promised to close gitmo when he was elected. Obama signed an executive order to close it but when Trump because President he rescinded it. Why hasn't byden followed up and re-closed it? Instead, it recently went through a big expansion which included a bigger jail just for senior citizens.

Special Forces have also been going in and out of gitmo regularly, just like this recent flight from South America (if you look up the reg it will come back to U.S. Special Forces). The guy above him is GTMO845 who goes back and forth from South Florida to gitmo multiple times pre day. Looks like they've been pretty busy down there.



this was not part of the pod... and it's telling that you've abandoned his pod content for new stuff - you don't even truly believe his drivel




but it may surprise you that most of what presidents say they will do never happens

it was either an overly ambitious promise they knew was unlikely to be done but said anyway for the votes

or it was something they didn't fully understand either the opposition they'd face in getting it done or the problem itself


trump said he'd lock up hillary, but he didn't, does this mean that she was the real acting president and he was the fake one who stole the election?

he said mexico would pay for the wall, they didn't, does this mean that trump is working for the cartels?

also, you act like it's strange that we'd have regular flights to gitmo, i'm sure if you checked any military base they too have regular flights






also, back to the generals thing, i forget if it was fire and fury or fear because both those books are so similar (not surprising given it's the same source for content) but in one of them bannon tells them how whenever they needed to hire a new security advisor, bannon would first vet the generals prep them for the upcoming meet and greet with trump - he'd coach them in how to "act like a general" because he knew that was all trump cared about - one of them was recently retired or about to retire or something and for that reason refused to wear his uniform to the meeting with trump because he didn't think it would be appropriate - as a result, trump predictably hated the guy and his main complaints were "I asked for a general and you gave me a guy dressed like a door to door salesman" or something to that effect

trump cares massively about optics, hence why he was so impressed with his generals "who looked like generals should look like" a la straight from central casting
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06-20-2024 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
I don't know what's happening on the inside because we're all just outsiders, but he seems to have a lot more connections than I do (traveling regularly to Mar a lago, getting invited to gitmo, etc.) so maybe he's right but that's not my view.
You claim to have connections at the highest levels of the military.
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06-20-2024 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
as a result, trump predictably hated the guy and his main complaints were "I asked for a general and you gave me a guy dressed like a door to door salesman" or something to that effect
I'm sure that Trump thinks every general should look like George C. Scott in Patton.
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06-20-2024 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
You claim to have connections at the highest levels of the military.
Odds that Derek is his connection?
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06-20-2024 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
I would not expect the "President's Own" to wear regular uniforms. They are not Marines that have regular assignments and play an instrument in their free time. These people are hired musicians. None of their uniforms look like anything anyone else wears.

Also, they may not be called BDUs anymore, but the marines wear CUUs, commonly referred to as "cammies", the same as BDUs.
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06-20-2024 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
I would not expect the "President's Own" to wear regular uniforms. They are not Marines that have regular assignments and play an instrument in their free time. These people are hired musicians. None of their uniforms look like anything anyone else wears.

Also, they may not be called BDUs anymore, but the marines wear CUUs, commonly referred to as "cammies", the same as BDUs.
i don't know bro, look at his iron clad source of "trust me bro because i wrote an unsourced opinion in a scrapbook" seems pretty crystal clear they are all paid actors... straight from central casting
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06-20-2024 , 02:08 PM
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I'm sure that Trump thinks every general should look like George C. Scott in Patton.
pretty much it, i've offered this before in other threads but i have both those books on audio book shared online and if anyone wants to listen to them i can post the link and they can download to their cpu/phone and listen - both books are incredibly good and as wild as this sounds - because they are both highly critical of him - i was left viewing trump in a much better light after listening to both

he's not this evil fascist trying to install the 4th reich in america, he's just a wildly insecure narcissist who is genuinely dumb to where he does indeed judge his national security advisors not on their prior work experience nor current input but instead by how they dress and carry themselves - if they don't look and act like he thinks a general should look or act then he hates the guy

this was a guy who watched cable news (not fox/oann etc but cnn/msnbc) for about 5+ hours every day just waiting for them to discuss him - if it were positive he'd double down on that, talk about it more, act it out more etc, if it were negative, he'd shy away from that - his primary concern was how he looked on tv and what the political commentators were saying about him - every time he did anything where he received universal praise just absolutely made his day

also, the books do an incredible job of highlighting just how entrenched so much of US policy is - one of his real positives is he's not afraid to look stupid (probably impossible in his mind) nor dissent from standard opinion

for example, he'll say "why are we letting china just absolutely destroy us in unfair trade practices" and he got a lot of "sir we have to accept that otherwise we'll face something worse than the great depression if we enter in a trade war" - literally everyone was against him doing that but it turned out that the pain wasn't nearly as bad as "washington consensus" would have believed it to be and was so successful that the subsequent administration kept those tariffs in place and renewed/strengthened them

likewise with the wall, that wall was already under construction under obama, trump just made it a talking point whereas the previously administration was quiet about it and then the subsequent one continues the wall program despite that trump's championship of it made it politically prudent to abandon

i remember when he was like "wait, wtf, why are we giving south korea so many billions each year in aid and why are we protecting them with our military without them paying for it" - literally everyone was telling him "sir if we pull out of south korea wwIII will start" - that's the genuine belief - whereas in reality it's probably more like moving it from a 0.001% monthly chance to a 0.0015% monthly chance

he tried to cancel all deals with korea multiple times, but each time he had the documents written up for him to sign, bannon or someone else would go intercept them from his desk and hide them in their desk - as trump was never at his desk, it was very easy to walk in and pull out various documents you didn't think he should sign - trump, being absent minded and a terrible executive, not seeing the documents to sign, would then forget about it - the only way he would remember was if it came up in the news or some advisor brought it up again, so people like bannon would just hope it didn't go in the news cycle again and then if it did and he made the request again, bannon would once again wait for the docs to be delivered to his desk and then intercept them again and he'd forget and cycle would repeat



trump was easily our worst executive ever, he took no real ownership of anything and was at the mercy of the people working around him agreeing whether or not something should happen because he literally never saw anything through and would often forget about it soon enough - remember there was one advisor trump really liked who would come to the oval office regularly to visit and push various things that bannon didn't like - so bannon just told the white house security to not allow that person inside anymore

this is easily something where in a normal situation the guy could have reached out to the president and said "hey i'm not allowed in anymore" and the president would fix that but he had no way to contact him, everything had always been through informally walking in and seeing if he was around at the time

likewise, trump actually noticed this guy stopped popping in, he liked the guy, he wanted him back, but again because he's a terrible exec he doesn't reach out to the guy and ask why he stopped showing up, nor try to even schedule a meeting, he just wonders out loud sometimes at meetings why that guy doesn't show up anymore and since the people around him don't like the guy they just shrug their shoulders and say "beats me" and then trump forgets about it and moves on

he was completely and utterly manipulated by his staff because he was too lazy to see anything through himself and was so poor at choosing staff members that he couldn't even get a team that was onboard with his vision and actively worked to sabotage him - i worry about saying that because it's more "deep state" fodder for pb200 and other conspiratards but alas he's just that incompetent
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06-20-2024 , 02:29 PM
The pain entering a fake trade war with China wasn't big because (no idea if on purpose or by mistake) tariffs were setup in a way that allowed ample triangulation
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06-20-2024 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
I would not expect the "President's Own" to wear regular uniforms. They are not Marines that have regular assignments and play an instrument in their free time. These people are hired musicians. None of their uniforms look like anything anyone else wears.

Also, they may not be called BDUs anymore, but the marines wear CUUs, commonly referred to as "cammies", the same as BDUs.
Here you go, this is all I can find rn on his social media but I've seen much better clear as night examples better than these which he also has.


















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06-20-2024 , 07:33 PM
surely it's unintentional to post blurry and tiny photos making in impossible to see/read any details and even if all that is true obviously a cropped photo of a single woman shown out of context is clearly surefire evidence


but all that aside - why pb? can you explain why they do it this way?
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06-20-2024 , 07:34 PM
I love how all these people who are participating in massive conspiracies miss the easy stuff that geniuses like PB are able to spot from a few low-res photos.
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06-20-2024 , 08:04 PM
more distressingly, they found these golden insights of massive public conspiracies, yet refuse to succinctly and convincingly show the evidence, instead just lean on some unsourced blurry images

it's almost as if there's a second conspiracy by those who know to keep this under wraps by never explaining how or why
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06-20-2024 , 08:51 PM
PB, who had the financial motive to kill two Boeing whistleblowers?
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06-20-2024 , 09:03 PM
PB - That's a Space Force uniform. I hope this helps.
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