It's a proven fact that the cars were blocked from escaping, which is how a lot of people died. This doesn't only come from your friend Fish who was interviewed it comes from just about every survivor. There are countless interviews with people shocked as to why they were blocking the escape routes with no explanation why. And it's not just barbed wire, on HRE's video from yesterday, there are miles and miles of fence covered with a black tarp so no one can see in. They also used heavy yellow iron equipment to move large boulders on a lookout point on a mountain that overlooks the city so no one can park there anymore to look down on the valley. Since you know this guy Fish, why don't you ask him what they're hiding there and why our government (this operation is lead by FEMA, the national guard there who are blocking the road are answering to them only) is doing this

Our president who went there to visit compared this to a small kitchen fire in his house and joked that he almost lost his corvette. That was a stab in the back to everyone involved. It was a disgrace (as usual).


So all it takes for you to believe something is a website? See how easy it is to control people?

It's not hard to see what's going on, but just in case, cliffs: Biden is a front for the global nazies who are all hidden (in plain sight) behind klaus schwab and the WEF along with their cohorts over at the CDC, FBI, CIA, DOJ, FEMA and the UN who are doing this in plain sight, but everyone is too programmed to hate trump as much as possible (who's also a front fwiw, he's basically a nothing in this war it's not all about him either but he's definitely on humanities side) or too closed minded to ever think they're being lied to.

The fires that caused all the smoke in NYC all started at the exact same time over hundreds of miles of forrest in Canada. How on earth does that happen naturally? But everyone wants to turn a blind eye because they believe "of course no one would do that on purpose" which was probably so they can start their plans for climate lockdowns. I'm not a conspiracy theorist I'm just stating the facts that need to be answered of which everyone wants to turn a blind eye to.

They're also currently preparing for a new pandemic with a new variant. Also, FEMA just emailed the people involved in the Maui disaster to not post any pictures of the disaster on social media. What are they hiding?

Your president doesn't care at all about anybody he's supposed to be serving, because he's not serving us he's serving his masters who control him along with many other leaders of other countries. If they continue to get their way, you will all be living in a climate crisis where you won't be allowed to travel more than 15 minutes from your home and forced to eat bugs and artificially grown foods. Bon appetito.

I see...

I wonder, though, what happened to the Space Force? Did they buy you off and get you to delete this?

No, not a conspiracy theorist at all.

Why is Biden Sending tens of Billions of Dollars on the regular to the Ukraine while leaving the people of Maui, Hawaii who lost everything (their homes, jobs, cars and family members) left out to dry? Where's Biden during this crisis? This needs to be everyone's concern who lives in the United States because this could be coming to a town near you. This administration doesn't care about the people they're supposed to be serving and the Maui "wildfires" only confirms this.

There's still a total internet and media blackout in Western Maui with the town now fenced in and guarded by the National Guard (who answer to FEMA) and they're not allowing any of the residents in or any social media pictures of the wreckage and according to the locals who live there, there's still thousands of children missing (according to the people who live there so you're literally being lied to if you're listening to the propaganda media which is just an arm of the democratic party who've all been bought out and hijacked by the evil nazi deep state globalists, who are saying there's only a few hundred missing). Just because you voted for this guy doesn't mean he has your best interests in mind (and that's an under statement). This could be coming to a town near you quick.
During the height of the fire, the roads were closed to keep everyone in (left to die literally), and the only people who survived were the ones who ran through the blockades and into free and safe open space while everyone trapped inside died but there's still no explanation as to why the roads were blocked (or why the water was shut off, or why the cell phone services was cut that morning).

Has anyone ever heard of a car fire that completely melts an aluminum wheel turning it into liquid aluminum that flows away like water? What's the explanation for that? Or melts all the windows of the vehicle? And the engine block?

The channel below I can assure you will be get shut down soon (which will only prove what they're trying to cry out to the world about is true) so check out what's really going on in Maui and then decide how great of a job Biden is doing. This realtor guy is the only one who can report these things because he has a starlink satellite system in his truck. This is probably why they're not allowing the media in there and why they've blocked the view in a canvass covered barbed wire fence all around the town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2WV-B26pA

One of the comments there reminds me of the die hard lefties who are too programmed to even use their own judgement or common sense:

"I showed most of this to my 8 year old (loves anything mechanical & science related) and asked him to pay close attention; & then I asked him if he had any questions… My 8 year old asked questions that the authorities are ignoring & he knows this is bs. They really think we’re this stupid, folks… God, please protect us from these creeps~����⬆️����"

I never said it didn't happen before the fires. Our president gave everyone who lost everything in the fire (which included their house and all their possessions, their car, their job, and many lost some family members as well) a check for just $700 (yes FEMA is in the process of "paying people off" for their properties and making quick deals which makes it look more like a "land grab" for the elites). That's why I compared it to the billions of dollars being sent for "weapons" and "training".

The evidence points more to an attack rather than a "forest fire". That town was turned into ashes, literally. What kind of car fire turns aluminum and glass into liquid? And completely melts the dashboard into nothing? All the professional fire fighters in the comments on Hawaii Real Estate's videos said they never saw anything close to this happening, even on cars that burned completely without anyone putting the fire out. This is what microwave weapons do when they get into the wrong hands. The facts that the police are under orders to not let anyone take any pictures around there, and the fact they won't let the media in, it's cut off by the National Guard (who are under orders of FEMA) and there's still no internet in that area only looks bad for this being an attack that they're trying to cover up.

Watch this to the end when the police come up to them and tell them no pictures are allowed (on an open highway). Is the the United States, or is it communism? Why no pictures?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0

Microwave weapons? Are you sure the cabal didn't just hold a giant magnifying glass over hawaii?

In response to some recent posts that have veered into full on nuttery, ganstaman and I have decided to create a fringe conspiracy containment thread. Whether specific posts about conspiracies will be relegated to this thread (or not allowed at all) obviously will be a judgment call.

What about normal conspiracies?

But yeah the Hawaii stuff is looking pretty shady and these sorts of things have occurred before like in some of California fires from a few years ago.

Microwave weapons that only selectively melted one aluminum wheel out of four on the downhill side of the car. I mean, what type of liquid might escape the enflamed vehicle and spill over the downhill rear wheel and possibly explain this physical evidence?

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never mind.

Maybe someone died in these wrecks, that would explain why.

I think fringe doesnt mean much.

Good plan. FWIW, there is already a similar one you might want to lock (or merge with this) so as to avoid confusion:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...hread-1782429/

That one was more centered on the election. This is a catch-all. In any case, I locked the old riggie thread to avoid confusion.

Shockingly, PlayBig2000 was the MVP of that one also.

Again u compare 2 thing that as nothing in common …..time frame , the actual event , economic implication for the country’s, etc .
That’s the problem .

Adding up , Like someone said earlier , what good to Maui it would do send long weapon and military training anyway …

I just see a dollar number and try to twist in something that makes no sense to blame someone .

Yeah, that's fair enough. It also wasn't as well named as this one, and did meander an awful lot. Just wanted you to know. Locking is great IMO.

Indeed. He's the reason I remembered that thread was around.

idk why they would t just use napalm, we have a whole army that’s very good at setting fire to things, why use a microwave death ray?

In a vacuum what's wrong with being a conspiracy theorist?

Laughable conspiracies are laughed off.

Conspiracies that follow logic and resonate with others are very good for discourse.

If you can't defend your side of an argument or your defense of something you should look at that and learn from it.

Conspiracy threads: where all the real thinkin and learnin happens.

Behold, for this is the result of normalising conspiracy theories and other similar brain****ery.

How do you reconcile the differences in responses from let's say,

the crazy climate folks who claim the world is gonna burn up in 1000 years from this guys nonsense?

The average person just laughs off the "Just Stop Oil" weirdos but the prevalence of outrage toward this guy's conspiracies seems unbalanced.

I don't agree with what he's saying I just disagree with your engagement.

Ah, a climate change denier. Thread's been open a few hours and we netted already.

Not denying climate change 80 IQ brother.

The climate is changing and I agree. At a rate that won't affect the world in a major way for billions of years.

It's an issue for a different time.

Well, "conspiracy theorist" is a somewhat vague term, so it depends on what one means by it. But for the most part, people (or at least I) are (am) thinking of someone who believes that much of the world is controlled by conspiracies, and falls back on conspiracies as their first explanation for many events they don't have direct knowledge about. If we're discussing posters like Playbig, they certainly don't cause us any harm, and aren't taken all that seriously so their impact on others is going to be pretty negligible. I don't think it's good for them or their mental health, and likely isn't great for those around them, but they don't have much effect on anyone else. But that doesn't mean their ideas should go unchallenged.

If "this guy" is Trump, I think it should be obvious why people would be outraged that someone with that kind of power would be peddling nonsense. If you mean Playbig, I wasn't aware that anyone was outraged. Amusement seems the more prevalent reaction.