Didn't seem like context mattered all that much to you 20 minutes ago when you were "victimizing" Uke an accusing him of all sorts of stuff with 0 evidence.

Fight the power of organised capital second/or richest man in the world, freeedooom.

The argument IS NOT that Uni's were perfect prior and that no one would get push back or find a hostile audience for their ideas. The argument is that things have been getting ever WORSE driven by an ever more aggressive and intolerant far 'left' who get outsized voice and representation in these matters. And much like a how a small number of far right extremists are targeting several strategic and key choke points where they can now use outsized power to shut down free speech (books, school curriculum, etc) to nefarious ends, so too have the far left been doing the same but for, far longer, from what I can see.

It is 'sad' that you feel you cannot talk of a real world trans person experience here but you would be correct that if it does not conform to the 'one true Opinion' expressed here you will be attacked for it and almost certainly labeled with a bunch of pejoratives, as if you are passing judgment and taking sides and not just relaying experience.

I hope you do detail your experience but certainly understand why you might not.

Yea sorry uke. It also happened in another thread the Poo fingers thread.

So this is what cuepee said and then the reply from uke.

I disagree with what uke said here. Claiming that a left prof doesn't have an advantage on the internet is bizzare to me.


Originally Posted by Cuepee
'the idea of 'campus academics who tend far left (oversized self identification with even marxism as opposed to general public) who do have an agenda to use their platforms to push extreme left agenda's.

And then uke said this:
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I'm so confused. Isn't the median "campus academics'" platform like 30 twitter followers, a grad student, and hopes to publish 2 papers a year in an obscure journal nobody but other academics in their narrow sub-discipline will ever read? Heck, I have a larger platform than 99% of academics (on account of YouTube), which makes me about as influential as your average 14 year old 2 months into their tik tok 'journey.'

Which didn't make so much sense. Cuepee was talking about the issue of major channels having a left agenda and then uke was talking nonsense. Thats gaslighting right there. Trying to disguise something, downplay it, denying. Uke ^^

Wait, you think left wing professors have an advantage over the koch brothers etc?

loooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

Well I'm glad washoe finally managed to quote the post and golly gee look at that, it doesn't say anywhere in there that "the left has no reach" as claimed.

you know what u did. and again you're trying to deflect it. stuff like that is driving masses to the right, and then what? You have trump again or worse but with more idiots.

All your fault then. you had to drive people insane with the gaslighting.

How many people were banned from the internet, in retrospect even unrightfully?

even hard liner liberals were scared of this bullshit, of voicing their opinion. even them were saying this is bullshit! You took it too far and now you have to admit that you abused your power. or else trump and then boom. youre f either way.

You had to play Stalin, you had to oppress everyone and drive them insane with your nonsense. now you get crazy populists. karma is a bitch.

Washoe and reality like ships in the night.

And in Canada specifically where uke is certainly to be amongst the outlier, far left of already very left grouping...


Instead, sadly the kids get more 'uke's' who swear they can not see any problems in their midst while not realizing that is the best argument to how deep the problems are.

Does anyone who reads the below believe uke would be the type to encourage his students to seek out information on opposing views? Really??

And our friend in this forum who condones violence as a tool is obviously in good company in the far left as highlighted below.

With an already small group of center and right leaning Professors and students you would think Universities would go out of their way to make room for them and encourage them to speak so there is some diversity of thought and debate. Something that is typically regarded as a strength of systems... but nope, the opposite. They suffer the same type of bullying and silencing tactics and cancel culture tactics that pervade social media and forums like this one.

Do you risk putting forth your argument, having it distorted and lies attributed to you and to try then to unbury yourself from all that, if anyone is listening or cares, at that point with regards to what is fact and true? You are not winning that battle and thus you just stay silent. Let the bullying tactic win.

I'm really not. I know you are really bought into your fabricated caricatures of me as some sort of imagined far left culture warrior or whatever, but down here in reality I don't know if I have actually done a single action that is tangential to the "culture wars" that you would actually disagree with. Like **** man, you are in the Canada thread, you know I largely spend my timing defending the centrist liberal party!

I suppose it depends on what you mean by "problem". I don't disagree that university professors are in general more left leaning than the general public, as evidenced by that ancient 2000 data. As you can see form the same chart, the number of "extreme" left people who rate themselves as 7/7 is only 6% of the population. Over 60% of professors were those moderated in the 3-5/7, neither far right nor far left. And it certainly doesn't establish that there is some massive problem with free speech or a range of expressable views or anything else.

Also lol at your climate change denying source.

The argument is whether

is accurate. I don't see how anybody who isn't completely ignorant of the history can say it is. From the red scare to Vietnam, academia has, in the past, had far more restrictions on speech and association than they do now.

This wasn't some fringe view in the 40s and 50s. Harvard professors at the time by a 2:1 margin thought tenured professors should be fired for membership in the communist party and one member of the commission, who helped write those guidelines, resigned as President of Columbia on January 19, 1953. The day before he would be sworn in as President of the United States.

In the last 2 elections, the 2020 Presidential and the 2018 midterms, Democrats set all time total vote records and 100 year turnout % records. Do you think the masses are flocking to the left because of the behavior of people like you?

I am curious of your opinions, you should share them and I'm sure the mods would be fine with it. You're probably overthinking it.

Not watching that. But understand that you can't answer when the facts completely contradict your poor attempts at gaslighting.

And here! I haven't watched it yet but like the titles.

Do you think the titles help explain what is driving the masses to the left?

Yeah it's nothing bad. But she's definitely a "troubled" individual-- and if the question is: Is she troubled because she is trans, or trans because she is troubled-- then I think it's more the latter than the former.

But I'm not too comfortable using what aspects of her psychology that I've gleaned to make this point.....and obviously sample size of 1, trans people aren't a monolith etc etc.

Still though-- 20 years ago she'd probably just be gay or bi-- so there still is that element there that draws from genetics. But I also think there is also a large societal element that goes into it-- and of course that's how it goes and that there are both nurture and nature aspects to the psychologies of individuals isn't that enlightening of a point.

I can accept you are not. I can accept it has moved so far to the left of you that you would not even be considered extreme.

What we know of you for sure, as demonstrated, is that you, at the drop of a hat, are willing to lie and slander anyone who uses the wrong words or expressed thoughts you think wrong. You may admit 10 pages later what you attributed them was not what they said while asking them to admit they that is what they meant anyway, as a way to say your slander and leis were justified and perhaps the further left of today would never acknowledge any such thing. So I accept that.

And yet it is not far worse.

Not in the aspects we are discussing...

I don’t know why I’m supposed to care about student polls when a major plank of one of the political parties is basically lying and saying that campuses used to have free speech but now don’t. But if you’re simply saying things are about the same now as in the past, you’ve walked back your ludicrous claim that campuses before whatever you mean by cancel culture used to be free speech havens and you now agree with me. I think it was worse when university administrations in conjunction with the government were actively suppressing speech but that’s a minor detail.

Nope. We are referencing the DECLINE.