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03-07-2023 , 02:45 PM
Is the opposing viewpoint of the opinion that marijuana is being trafficked but that the cartels are not trafficking harder drugs through Canada?
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03-07-2023 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Is the opposing viewpoint of the opinion that marijuana is being trafficked but that the cartels are not trafficking harder drugs through Canada?
No Trollys opinion is that a shitload of drugs come into the USA from Canada . I am not sure what a shitload is but it pales in comparison to the amount coming in from the Mexico .

I would fathom a guess that the amount coming in from Canada is less than .1%. Though neither of us could give an exact number.

Instead its Trolly trolling me as usual within the boundaries of what will not get him suspended again

Last edited by lozen; 03-07-2023 at 03:41 PM.
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03-07-2023 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No Trollys opinion is that a shitload of drugs come into the USA from Canada .
I've provided multiple sources to back this up, it's not "Trollys opinion."


Let me know when you're either prepared to agree with me or to present evidence that I'm wrong.
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03-07-2023 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No Trollys opinion is that a shitload of drugs come into the USA from Canada . I am not sure what a shitload is but it pales in comparison to the amount coming in from the Mexico .

I would fathom a guess that the amount coming in from Canada is less than .1%. Though neither of us could give an exact number.

Instead its Trolly trolling me as usual within the boundaries of what will not get him suspended again
And what’s the opposing opinion?
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03-07-2023 , 04:13 PM
Pretty sure most marijuana these days is produced domestically.
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03-07-2023 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Pretty sure most marijuana these days is produced domestically.
California is a huge exporter to illegal states. Black market has never been doing better than now.
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03-07-2023 , 04:40 PM
Plenty of weed being grown all across the US, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s on par with imports.
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03-07-2023 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Plenty of weed being grown all across the US, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s on par with imports.
I don't think much is imported at all. Imported weed is generally compressed into "bricks" to make it easier to transport and get across the border. And you don't see that anymore.
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03-07-2023 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Plenty of weed being grown all across the US, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s on par with imports.
Wholesale prices for legal weed have tanked. California is producing way more cannabis than it consumes.
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03-08-2023 , 05:30 PM
So of the 4 kidnapped 4 are dead . The two that are alive include the lady that went for the tummy tuck. They were held since Friday and were tortured while they watched the other two die .
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03-08-2023 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I don't think much is imported at all. Imported weed is generally compressed into "bricks" to make it easier to transport and get across the border. And you don't see that anymore.
Back in the day those bricks would sometimes wash up on the beach in Florida. People made jokes about "saving the bales".
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03-08-2023 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Really and you have any proof of that ?
Is this just some weird defend Canada thing or do you really not know what a big player Canada has been in the mix over the years?
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03-08-2023 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So of the 4 kidnapped 4 are dead . The two that are alive include the lady that went for the tummy tuck. They were held since Friday and were tortured while they watched the other two die .
some see a wanted continuation of the failed war on drugs.. some see a failure of the american health system..
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03-08-2023 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So of the 4 kidnapped 4 are dead . The two that are alive
Math checks out.
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03-08-2023 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So of the 4 kidnapped 4 are dead . The two that are alive include the lady that went for the tummy tuck. They were held since Friday and were tortured while they watched the other two die .
I hope no one actually believes the tummy tuck story. I mean, it should be a big deal that 4 Americans were, kidnapped, tortured and murdered by the drug cartels the Biden administration has handed control of the border over to. But given what little we know about this story there is no way they were there for a tummy tuck.
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03-09-2023 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
I hope no one actually believes the tummy tuck story. I mean, it should be a big deal that 4 Americans were, kidnapped, tortured and murdered by the drug cartels the Biden administration has handed control of the border over to. But given what little we know about this story there is no way they were there for a tummy tuck.
Seems reasonable actually? People cross the border for surgery and medicine every day.
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03-09-2023 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Seems reasonable actually? People cross the border for surgery and medicine every day.
An adult middle aged woman travels with three adult middle aged men for a tummy tuck. The spouse of one of the men says she didn't even know he went. For no reason at all, cartel members kidnap, torture and kill 2 of them. Oh yeah, they all have lengthy criminal history involving drugs.

Yeah, not buying it.

Still should be a big deal, and one more data point of Biden's abject failures when it comes to the border and drug trade. In a sane world, if one was going to argue Biden was unfit for re-eleciton this should be a lot bigger data point than some random old confidential files laying around in his house.
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03-09-2023 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
An adult middle aged woman travels with three adult middle aged men for a tummy tuck. The spouse of one of the men says she didn't even know he went. For no reason at all, cartel members kidnap, torture and kill 2 of them. Oh yeah, they all have lengthy criminal history involving drugs.

Yeah, not buying it.

Still should be a big deal, and one more data point of Biden's abject failures when it comes to the border and drug trade. In a sane world, if one was going to argue Biden was unfit for re-eleciton this should be a lot bigger data point than some random old confidential files laying around in his house.

I didn't know any of the details. Yeah sounds fishy.
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03-09-2023 , 12:30 AM
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Still should be a big deal, and one more data point of Biden's abject failures when it comes to the border and drug trade.
Yep, Biden is definitely responsible for crime in Mexico. He runs the whole world, right?
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03-09-2023 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
An adult middle aged woman travels with three adult middle aged men for a tummy tuck. The spouse of one of the men says she didn't even know he went. For no reason at all, cartel members kidnap, torture and kill 2 of them. Oh yeah, they all have lengthy criminal history involving drugs.

Yeah, not buying it.

Still should be a big deal, and one more data point of Biden's abject failures when it comes to the border and drug trade. In a sane world, if one was going to argue Biden was unfit for re-eleciton this should be a lot bigger data point than some random old confidential files laying around in his house.
Cartel guys withdrawing from meth are known to be violent without cause. I assume they didn’t wanna stop and pay the toll so they got shot up and made an example of. It’s sad and it happens all of the time. People cross the border for medicine all the time.
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03-09-2023 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Yep, Biden is definitely responsible for crime in Mexico. He runs the whole world, right?
Well isn't the USA the world police force and he is the Leader?

Is it not under Biden the cartels are getting rich under a open border? What is he doing to address 100,000 folks dying from fentanyl ? Thoughts and Prayers?

He has the power to do something and chances are would have GOP support but choses to do nothing
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03-09-2023 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
He has the power to do something
Awesome! So, what is this something that will solve (or help to solve) the problem?
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03-09-2023 , 05:09 PM
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Awesome! So, what is this something that will solve (or help to solve) the problem?
Would you agree the current path by both administrations will not solve the issue. Its only going to get worse. I was watching the Five yesterday and the one host said so if we go bomb them can Mexico come bomb us for supplying all the guns to the cartels? Valid point

First off the Dem s will do nothing than offer thoughts and prayers to the families like the GOP does with Gun massacres

I would declare the cartels all of them as terrorists.
Create a bi partisan committee on the issue
Once that is done you put Mexico on notice and tell them they can be part of the solution and were willing to help. If they do nothing than you sanction them first
I would restore many of Trumps border policies
I would put the gun manufacturers and banks on notice as well
Mandatory Minimums for anyone caught with more than a certain amount of Fentanyl
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03-10-2023 , 03:20 AM
Good thing Europe doesn't share a border with Mexico or there'd be record highs of cocaine seizures right now...
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03-10-2023 , 07:57 AM
Why do we need to do anything across the border? How about just lighting up any cartel activity on the USA side of the border. No mercy, just destroy them. That will send a message and it will be totally legal by international law.
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