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How do you know why his post was banned?

So, is it okay to call the Republican Party a hate group?

Is it okay to call BLM a hate group?

Is it okay to call the Nazi Party a hate group?

because calling things hate groups is obviously not why the meme is racist.
yes and they would be correct.
yes and they would be incorrect.
yes and they would be correct.

but mainly ok according to whom? these are private companies that can do whatever they want. as a self claimed libertarian/conservative you should be absolutely on the side of the private company being allowed to do whatever they desire in this argument.

its just that libertarians dont actually believe in any of the **** they preach and are the dumbest of all political beliefs.

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10-18-2020 , 02:49 PM

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A good friend of mine just got a 30-day suspension from Facebook for posting a meme that identified Antifa, the KKK, the Nazi Party and Black Lives Matter as "hate groups."

I'm not trying to debate whether or not Antifa or BLM are hate groups here, but it seems a stretch to ban a user for 30 days for stating his opinion that all of those four groups are hate groups.

In this Forum, I suspect that some would classify the Republican Party as a hate group. I wonder if expressing that sentiment would earn a 30-day ban on Facebook?

I suspect your friend is not being entirely truthful with you. Temp-bans from Facebook is more into the «I would like this person to be killed»-territory.

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10-18-2020 , 02:54 PM

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Chess.com hands out temps for saying the f word in the chat lol.

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10-18-2020 , 03:02 PM

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I can call the Republican Party a hate group without equating them to the Nazis.

+1

In the Old Forum, I think some of the lefties did equate the GOP with the KKK.

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10-18-2020 , 03:53 PM

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because calling things hate groups is obviously not why the meme is racist.
yes and they would be correct.
yes and they would be incorrect.
yes and they would be correct.

but mainly ok according to whom? these are private companies that can do whatever they want. as a self claimed libertarian/conservative you should be absolutely on the side of the private company being allowed to do whatever they desire in this argument.

its just that libertarians dont actually believe in any of the **** they preach and are the dumbest of all political beliefs.

I do believe that Facebook should be allowed to ban anybody they want, for any reason they want. I believe in freedom of association. They should be allowed to do business with anybody they want. I never said otherwise. I was basically inquiring about consistency.

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10-18-2020 , 04:08 PM

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why does consistency matter?

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10-18-2020 , 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tame_deuces

I suspect your friend is not being entirely truthful with you. Temp-bans from Facebook is more into the «I would like this person to be killed»-territory.

You could be right. He showed me the meme that he claimed got him temp-banned. He has been temp-banned many times before, so it could an accumulation of infractions.

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10-18-2020 , 04:28 PM

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Chess.com hands out temps for saying the f word in the chat lol.

Civility is generally regarded as extremely important in chess, so that is probably why.

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10-18-2020 , 04:29 PM

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why does consistency matter?

If someone isn't being consistent, it's hard to figure out what will get me banned and what won't. Like a baseball pitcher early in the game tries to figure out the strike zone as defined by the home plate umpire. The pitcher doesn't generally care whether the umpire's perceived strike zone is high or low, as long as the umpire keeps the strike zone consistent throughout the game for both pitchers.

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10-18-2020 , 04:32 PM

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Civility is generally regarded as extremely important in chess, so that is probably why.

+1

Even so ,the great Aron Nimzovich once lost a game to a "lesser" master. After the game, an angry Nimzovich shouted, "How could I lose to this idiot?"

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10-18-2020 , 04:33 PM

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I was playing an IRL friend so it was fine, but I understand why they do it.

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10-18-2020 , 04:35 PM

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i understand what consistency is. im saying why does it matter to you?

it should be an absolute nonfactor in your support for corporations acting however they please.

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10-18-2020 , 04:59 PM

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i understand what consistency is. im saying why does it matter to you?

it should be an absolute nonfactor in your support for corporations acting however they please.

It is a non-factor in terms of my belief that corporations should be able to do business with whomever they please. I'm looking at it from the standpoint as the consumer.

For example, I think the mods in this Forum should be allowed to ban anybody for any reason they want. Having said that, as a user of this Forum, I'm glad that the moderators seem very consistent on what they allow and what they don't.

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10-18-2020 , 05:30 PM

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swing and a miss, lag.

Corps only need to look at consistency of P&L statements. If a fascist website is profitable....then their assumed brand of censorship is valid to their board. Consumer concerns...lol.

*ignoring that said fascist might not care about profitability; getting the message out at a loss may still be a win in their eyes.

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10-19-2020 , 10:47 AM

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swing and a miss, lag.

Corps only need to look at consistency of P&L statements. If a fascist website is profitable....then their assumed brand of censorship is valid to their board. Consumer concerns...lol.

*ignoring that said fascist might not care about profitability; getting the message out at a loss may still be a win in their eyes.

Hey, Reggie Jackson swung and missed a lot, but he still made the Hall of Fame.

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10-19-2020 , 10:56 AM

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yeah. the shadow banning/bias against conservatives simply does not exist.

I thought this was amusing. Conservatives cry about bias so much that in order to appear unbiased, Facebook apparently weights articles with an anti-liberal bias and has relaxed fact checking reqs on Conservative outlets.

https://gizmodo.com/with-zucks-bless...c-t-1845403484

(original WSJ article is behind a paywall)

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10-19-2020 , 10:59 AM

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I mean, you need only look at who the biggest (maybe even, only) whiners are about supposed "bias" and "freeze peach" on this forum - it's not the liberals.

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10-19-2020 , 11:16 AM

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I mean, you need only look at who the biggest (maybe even, only) whiners are about supposed "bias" and "freeze peach" on this forum - it's not the liberals.

Are/were ALL of the Presidential Debate moderators this year registered Democrats?

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10-19-2020 , 11:27 AM

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Are/were ALL of the Presidential Debate moderators this year registered Democrats?

No idea. I suspect infamous radical leftist and Fox News anchor Chris Wallace is probably a card-carrying commie though.

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10-19-2020 , 11:31 AM

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No idea. Pretty sure infamous radical leftist and Fox News Anchor Chris Wallace must be a card-carrying commie though.

LOL

Mr. Wallace is a registered Democrat. I think he's kinda an old-school moderate Democrat, like former Senator Henry Jackson.

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10-19-2020 , 02:19 PM

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Wallace has said in interviews that he's registered D because he lives in Washington DC, where it's a one-party show and the only way to have a say is to vote in the Democratic primary. He said he's voted for both D and R candidates for president. If you believe his explanation for why he's registered D, there's little reason to think he's any kind of Democrat at all.

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10-19-2020 , 04:10 PM

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Are/were ALL of the Presidential Debate moderators this year registered Democrats?

Does it matter? Presumably it is how you moderate that should be the center topic.

The US is in this weird political super-position, where on one hand there is a strong public demand that journalists political affiliation should be on the table when judging them, but on the other hand you often see people lamenting the problematic tribalism present in US news media.

If someone claims the sky is falling down and will kill us all, it doesn't matter what political affiliation they are. What matters is if the sky is indeed falling down or they're just being silly.

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10-19-2020 , 09:22 PM

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How do you know why his post was banned?

So, is it okay to call the Republican Party a hate group?

Is it okay to call BLM a hate group?

Is it okay to call the Nazi Party a hate group?

post the meme. I am sure it was much worse than just calling BLM a hate group.

regardless, no its not "OK". not saying you should be banned, just saying that someone who espouses such idiocy is not in any way "OK" and should be treated as such.

and yes, ofc the Republican party is a hate group.

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10-19-2020 , 09:26 PM

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You could be right. He showed me the meme that he claimed got him temp-banned. He has been temp-banned many times before, so it could an accumulation of infractions.

lol

liars lie. its what they do. next time maybe dont immediately admit your lying.