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11-04-2020 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Can you cite any evidence of potential election fraud, other than Trump's claims?
Yes actually, I do have evidence of election fraud in Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin but the issue here is censorship by big tech. And unfortunately Trump doesn't have the balls to do anything about it while he still can.

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Originally Posted by Original Position
Do you really think Obama and Trump's tweeting is a fair comparison here?
No and it does not matter. Trump is a buffoon, most of his tweets are bad but that's not the point.

Can we all put our hatred of orange man aside for a moment and think of how this can eventually backfire?
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11-04-2020 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
Yes actually, I do have evidence of election fraud in Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin
Sounds like "wide spread voter fraud"

Cite please.

And not simply one-offs. Confirmed fraud as absolute.... from reputable sources. He said/she said doesn't have validity as you would expect.
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11-04-2020 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
No and it does not matter. Trump is a buffoon, most of his tweets are bad but that's not the point.
If you want to compare Twitter moderation of Trump and Obama tweets, and one does only normie politician tweets, and the other one cosplays as a WWE president, actually that does seem to matter, that is 100% the point.

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Can we all put our hatred of orange man aside for a moment and think of how this can eventually backfire?
Sure. I don't mind Twitter putting a warning label on Trump's or Biden's tweets if they are spreading election misinformation. I don't think they should block or ban them (as they did with NYP) unless they are tweeting child porn or something. Or unless they ban all politicians, which I probably support.

As for potential bad effects, I don't mind much the likeliest effect, because I think Twitter is a net negative for American society and if it does a biased or unfair job of moderating politicians, hopefully people will lose confidence in it and stop using it.

Last edited by Original Position; 11-04-2020 at 05:05 PM. Reason: double negative
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11-04-2020 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
Yes actually, I do have evidence of election fraud in Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin but the issue here is censorship by big tech. And unfortunately Trump doesn't have the balls to do anything about it while he still can.



No and it does not matter. Trump is a buffoon, most of his tweets are bad but that's not the point.

Can we all put our hatred of orange man aside for a moment and think of how this can eventually backfire?
While we're waiting on your evidence of voter fraud, why do you think that someone should have an unchecked right to broadcast outright lies to billions of people?
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11-04-2020 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Cite please.
It can be impossible to catch though, so demanding citations doesn't really work. The difficult hill to climb when claiming voter fraud isn't whether or not it happens, it's whether enough of it happens to change an outcome.

Wisconsin had hundreds of thousands of known bad names on the voter lists. The election commission was ordered last winter to follow the law and remove them, but refused to do so. They were held in contempt, but still gave no ****s.

I bought my current house in 2014 from a guy who was moving to Texas. A few months ago, I received his mail-in ballot application. The only personal information needed on the application was stuff that I could find elsewhere on the mailer itself. I threw it in the garbage, but I can say with near certainty that if I had opted to return it, there is no chance I'd have been caught. How would they?

I know, one guy one example does not a pattern make. But don't just dismiss it or you'll never get through to the person you're arguing with.
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11-04-2020 , 05:09 PM




Yeah Ins0, I'm sure it wouldn't be the party of cheats and liars who want to stop a perfectly legitimate vote count from happening doing the voter fraud.
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11-04-2020 , 05:09 PM
I'm not arguing.....my banhammer is vibrating.

Wisconsin hundred's of thousands....... was a 2016 claim, correct? And 100Ks WERE deleted by 2018. or did they media get that one wrong too?

Last edited by King Spew; 11-04-2020 at 05:14 PM.
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11-04-2020 , 05:19 PM
Who switched the Smarties for M&Ms??
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11-04-2020 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
I'm not arguing.....my banhammer is vibrating.

Wisconsin hundred's of thousands....... was a 2016 claim, correct? And 100Ks WERE deleted by 2018. or did they media get that one wrong too?
Well considering that the second judge's order to halt the removal of the names happened in Jan 2020, I'm going to go ahead and say your info is wrong.
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11-04-2020 , 05:31 PM
I think this hand perfectly sums up the Biden vs Trump election

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11-04-2020 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
Like him or not this is messed up. I know iT's A pRiVaTe CoMpAnY and orange man bad but I can't even fathom the riots if Obama was ever censored by big tech. I see people celebrating this, amidst potential election fraud just because it's the opposing team.



Maybe he should stop spreading harmful lies and violating their TOS
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11-04-2020 , 05:34 PM
Thx. I believe you are correct. Wisconsin "likes" to do their maintenance after federal elections. Conservative groups wanted them to change their standard and do it before this election because.....widespread voter fraud.... which of course has NEVER been proven in that state...or any others. Or did the media get that one incorrect as well?
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11-04-2020 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
It can be impossible to catch though, so demanding citations doesn't really work. The difficult hill to climb when claiming voter fraud isn't whether or not it happens, it's whether enough of it happens to change an outcome.



Wisconsin had hundreds of thousands of known bad names on the voter lists. The election commission was ordered last winter to follow the law and remove them, but refused to do so. They were held in contempt, but still gave no ****s.



I bought my current house in 2014 from a guy who was moving to Texas. A few months ago, I received his mail-in ballot application. The only personal information needed on the application was stuff that I could find elsewhere on the mailer itself. I threw it in the garbage, but I can say with near certainty that if I had opted to return it, there is no chance I'd have been caught. How would they?



I know, one guy one example does not a pattern make. But don't just dismiss it or you'll never get through to the person you're arguing with.
I'm so glad your taxes are going to go back up
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11-04-2020 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
I'm so glad your taxes are going to go back up
Not so fast, mon frère! My personal income tax return won't show $400,000 of income, so I've been assured my taxes won't increase.

I'm going to dip into every public trough I can get my hands on under our new socialist overlords, and I just might like it. That should excite you.

Literally filling out the PPP forgiveness application on my other monitor right now.

I might even sign up for the Amazon warehouse raid being scheduled down in Kenosha. Cops aren't allowed to mess with white people, so it'll be free money! I'll just say I'm there to protect the private property, and they might even give me a hand carrying the loot back to my car.
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11-04-2020 , 06:18 PM
Anecdote from outside the US for those nut case thinking election was rigged ?
At around midnight . Live on Canadian broadcast with of course Canadian analysts ( which I must confess , was amazingly good and correct !) .
They all said even it was red o the screen but close race, they would all rather be Biden because all the big cities with the postal ballot wasn’t in yet and it was probably massively for Biden side and those Wisconsin, Michigan and even (!) Pennsylvania would probably switch to Biden .....!!

will see about Pennsylvania when big city ballots will be finalized but damn was he on the money !

trump is just being Trump with his brain dead base believing w/e their guru says .

I mean seriously, why those states would fraud this year but not in 2016 with all the same people’s in place .

Easier to make fraud with Hilary having 3 millions vote more than doing it from behind in a razor thin election under massive surveillance...
But again no point in trying to prove anything anything with the republicans , they reject logic, evidences and science .......
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11-04-2020 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Not so fast, mon frère! My personal income tax return won't show $400,000 of income, so I've been assured my taxes won't increase.

I'm going to dip into every public trough I can get my hands on under our new socialist overlords, and I just might like it. That should excite you.
And of course you are the one thinking the D cheat the election lol ....

no wonder republicans see the reality differently , think Biden is a socialist while trump is a huge buddy of poutine lol.

Yes Biden is even more communist than poutine am I right ?

Republican religious sect is even more powerful and blind than their Catholic Church o0....
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11-04-2020 , 06:25 PM
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11-04-2020 , 06:32 PM
Sorry Mr. Montreal, just so we're clear, I was not being serious. I don't actually think Biden is a socialist, and I don't think this election was stolen or whatever.

I have been rather consistent in saying that Trump is ultimately his own worst enemy and this was over months ago.

I am not even remotely upset over the outcome here. It probably won't affect me, unless Biden royally ****s up and actually confiscates all the money from the 1%. That would be bad for business.
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11-04-2020 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Sorry Mr. Montreal, just so we're clear, I was not being serious. I don't actually think Biden is a socialist, and I don't think this election was stolen or whatever.

I have been rather consistent in saying that Trump is ultimately his own worst enemy and this was over months ago.

I am not even remotely upset over the outcome here. It probably won't affect me, unless Biden royally ****s up and actually confiscates all the money from the 1%. That would be bad for business.
Fair enough
Just thinking there is enough troll among us , you don’t need to to add a pile on top it
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11-04-2020 , 06:41 PM
Couldn't find it, but it looks like I was wrong with my prediction that Trump would be reelected
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11-04-2020 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
Yes actually, I do have evidence of election fraud in Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin but the issue here is censorship by big tech. And unfortunately Trump doesn't have the balls to do anything about it while he still can.



No and it does not matter. Trump is a buffoon, most of his tweets are bad but that's not the point.

Can we all put our hatred of orange man aside for a moment and think of how this can eventually backfire?
You made the following statement (emphasis mine):

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Originally Posted by You
I see people celebrating this, amidst potential election fraud just because it's the opposing team.
The implication here is that the censorship is egregious specifically because of the election fraud - presumably because if there were no election fraud, Trump's claim would be false and therefore there would be no issue with the disclaimer Twitter put on his tweets.

I am asking you to substantiate your claim with supporting evidence of "potential election fraud", or retract it.
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11-04-2020 , 07:11 PM
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11-04-2020 , 07:15 PM


Dibs
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11-04-2020 , 07:21 PM
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11-04-2020 , 07:53 PM
the boomers were a lot cooler when they were streaking and throwing pies. Now they just look sad
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