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10-26-2020 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I think we have a fairly representative mainstream GOP voter here in nohands; here are his thoughts on the matter. I'll leave the evaluation of the merits of his post as an exercise for the reader.
In other words, paranoid and delusional, and quite possibly schizophrenic?
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10-26-2020 , 04:08 PM
Articles I'm reading online. Says all data points to record turnout. Some say high could surpass 65 percent. I don't see this as any way being good for Trump or Republicans in general. Trump and Republicans tend to poll better in Likely voter models. This wave could make 2018 seem like a sprinkle
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10-26-2020 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
In other words, paranoid and delusional, and quite possibly schizophrenic?
I don't know about all that, but he does remind me of communist China.
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10-26-2020 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
Articles I'm reading online. Says all data points to record turnout. Some say high could surpass 65 percent. I don't see this as any way being good for Trump or Republicans in general. Trump and Republicans tend to poll better in Likely voter models. This wave could make 2018 seem like a sprinkle
Name any foreign adversary to the United States that has done more to undermine the confidence in the US electoral system than Trump. And all done with lies. This fact alone should dissuade any American voting for him. It's unfortunate we have so many compromised foreign propagandists in this country calling themselves republicans.
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10-26-2020 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I don't know about all that, but he does remind me of communist China.
schizophrenia definition: a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation.
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10-26-2020 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
Or said in another way, the vast majority of republicans are to varying degrees, racists.
Opinion.

Maybe Radical Right.

But the VAST majority of mainstream Republicans are racists seems a stretch.
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10-26-2020 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
Name any foreign adversary to the United States that has done more to undermine the confidence in the US electoral system than Trump. And all done with lies. This fact alone should dissuade any American voting for him. It's unfortunate we have so many compromised foreign propagandists in this country calling themselves republicans.
Even the pro-Trump political analysts are trying to spin this record turnout as shy Trump voters finally coming out to vote for him. That line of reasoning is as likely as Biden winning AL. Even at the margins their logic is showing cracks. Data is pointing to Biden losing IN by less than 8 percent. SC and MT are way closer than they should be as well.
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10-26-2020 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Opinion.

Maybe Radical Right.

But the VAST majority of mainstream Republicans are racists seems a stretch.
Of course. Because they dont want to be labeled as racists. Who would? I've known so many republicans drop the n word in a derogatory way (ie not reciting rap lyrics) and later claim with a straight face they arent racists. Obviously this is a small sample size. But imo you are kidding yourself if you dont think America is FULL of racists.

And by the way, republicans ARE the radical right.
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10-26-2020 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Opinion.



Maybe Radical Right.



But the VAST majority of mainstream Republicans are racists seems a stretch.
Why should someone who supports institutional racism be protected from being called racist?
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10-26-2020 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Why should someone who supports institutional racism be protected from being called racist?
Might not be their Hot-Button issue.... as in some vote R simply because R is seen as pro 2A and pro NRA.
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10-26-2020 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
As a Texan I would love for it to go totally blue. However I think Trump is likely to still take the state. The good news is there is a massive movement of democratic voters in the state and a lot of down ballot elections are going to go blue and have a significant impact on the state, which will in turn impact the entire country down the road.





I am not completely giving up on Texas going Biden, but a poll out today had Trump +4. I think it will be really close.
+4 is usually means it will be +7 when the undecided breaks to Trump and those saying they will vote for Biden to the pollster who really will vote for Trump but don't say it because it is unpopular to say that and would rather wait for polling day to do it.
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10-26-2020 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Why should someone who supports institutional racism be protected from being called racist?
Because it's false.
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10-26-2020 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Might not be their Hot-Button issue.... as in some vote R simply because R is seen as pro 2A and pro NRA.
They still have to be pretty OK with racism to make that vote, though. Trump's 2016 was centered on racism. The wall, the Muslim ban, the deportation force, roughing up Black protesters, etc. Voting for guns but not racism is like trying to vote for Pence but not Trump.

Also, the NRA is pretty racist.
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10-26-2020 , 05:15 PM


Not equal and opposite.
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10-26-2020 , 05:21 PM
I guess my main point is that the conservative "nutjobs" as I defined them above are not the ones that are setting the agenda. They are a reliable part of the Republican coalition, but not an influential one.

Goofyballer's point that there are actual QAnon adherents in Congress is no doubt disturbing, but I think an aberration and (maybe I am naive) but I don't think QAnon is ever going to set the Republican agenda. The guardrails will prevent a handful of QAnon Republicans from doing much.

We are better off worrying about the actual agenda of the GOP (which as has been recently pointed out includes a number of policies that make structural racism worse). Joe Schmoe from rural Mississippi who believes Trump is the reincarnation of Christ and thinks Biden has boytoys in gimp suits in his basement is never going to amount to anything and isn't worth our time.
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10-26-2020 , 05:25 PM
The guardrails were supposed to stop Trump. Trump is a Qanon Republican, and he's setting the agenda.
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10-26-2020 , 05:30 PM
An Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll

Georgia: Likely voters

Joe Biden 47%
Donald Trump 46%



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10-26-2020 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
The guardrails were supposed to stop Trump. Trump is a Qanon Republican, and he's setting the agenda.
Trump refused to denounce/disavow QAnon, but I am unaware of him ever endorsing it or promoting its conspiracy. I am unaware of the Trump administration investigating alleged child sex trafficking by prominent Democrats. Am I missing something?
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10-26-2020 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hardinthepaint
Trump refused to denounce/disavow QAnon, but I am unaware of him ever endorsing it or promoting its conspiracy. I am unaware of the Trump administration investigating alleged child sex trafficking by prominent Democrats. Am I missing something?
yes
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10-26-2020 , 05:35 PM
Very helpful response.
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10-26-2020 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hardinthepaint
Trump refused to denounce/disavow QAnon, but I am unaware of him ever endorsing it or promoting its conspiracy. I am unaware of the Trump administration investigating alleged child sex trafficking by prominent Democrats. Am I missing something?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbre.../#7a58ec0b5b16
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10-26-2020 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hardinthepaint
Very helpful response.
It's best you put in the work. You'll be a stronger person/citizen for it.
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10-26-2020 , 05:42 PM
Thanks. Missed that he had re-tweeted that. I take your point that he is being opportunistic by not sidelining QAnon, and in so doing he lends credibility to it. But I think that is a far cry from being a "QAnon Republican" and that he is promoting QAnon's agenda.
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10-26-2020 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
It's best you put in the work. You'll be a stronger person/citizen for it.
You can save the patronizing tone. The claim was that Donald Trump was setting a pro-QAnon agenda. I was wondering if I missed something more substantive than a retweet. I don't think I have.
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10-26-2020 , 05:51 PM
...like i said
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