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Originally Posted by Rococo
In less than 36 hours, we moved from TS professing his open-mindedness and expressing hope and enthusiasm for a reasonable exchange of ideas to you having to explain to TS that it was racist for a white person to own a black person in the United States in 1840, even if that white person was mostly interested in making money off the free labor of that black person.
Let's get this straight.
A list of items was offered claiming that Trump was racist. The list was pretty weak in my view.
Then someone (not me) opened the discussion asking if slavery was unequivocally racist. I explained that clearly it wasn't, given that white owners owned white slaves in the millions throughout history and black owners owned black slaves in the millions through Africa. So the act of slavery itself is not sufficient to establish racism. This is just basic logic guys, trying to narrow down a term based on a claim that ______ is racist.
So I ask ok - what are the criteria? Give historical examples of how what you offered is not
sufficient. And you all lose your minds.
This lack of philosophical perspective as to what are basic and reasonable questions is terrible, truly terrible.
Racist: The claim that all of <race> are inferior
Racist: The claim that all of <race> share in guilt for that race's historical shortcomings
Racist: Believing that people are less as humans because they're <race> and therefore it ok to enslave them in perpetuity.
Not racist: Slavery itself, including enslaving of whites by blacks for purely economic reasons, any more than enslaving of whites by whites was racist
Not racist: Opining negatively about the Central Park 5, brutal thugs and bashers of women wrongly convicted of the rape and head trauma of a woman that happened in the same park by the same group of thugs participating in the bashing
Not racist: Claiming Obama or Ted Cruz were born outside of the USA.
This stuff isn't hard and it's not even controversial as far as I'm concerned. Everybody needs to take a breath in my view.