Mickey, do you think liberal ideology is to make the country poorer?

Seems appropriate:

No, but I don't think one of their main goals is to make everyone wealthier either.

Define "make everyone wealthier"? A reasonable definition to me would be to raise the mean and median income, which would seem to be one of their main goals, yes. If by "everyone" you mean "the top 1% of earners", then no, it isn't.

I'm aware of that, I just think USA#1 on corona deaths goes to the same grinder. And I don't really believe it's even 50% that Putin would have that bounty, just something I've been thinking for a few days and I couldn't think anything Trump would have done otherwise if that was the case. Except how open the corruption has been, maybe he would have been even more blatant trying to spread it.

this campaign, as well as ivanka as a messenger feels like a mistake the dems would make. the economically anxious folks in the rust belt don't want to find something new. thats kind of the entire point of MAGA

It is clear and it is clear world wide as well as in the long history of the US.

Wealth is built in a country by growth of GSP creating more opportunities for all.

How does GPD grow?

Through both population growth (which becomes required if gov't are addicted to running deficits and piling on debt) and that population growth fostering new businesses.

Gov't can foster and feed that thru infrastructure spending and other things that make business more efficient and thus foster it.

In the early days of countries population growth can come from birth rates supplemented by a small percentage of immigration.

What you see all throughout the US history is waves of immigrants coming in typically as poor 'discards' from their home country being greatly disparaged by the whoever is already here (even if they too immigrated) but eventually over time integrating and contributing to the wealth creation that all then enjoy. Gov't has MORE revenue and thus more money to repeat the cycle of investing in growth.

But at the start these new immigrants come in poor, are a drain on those here for the short term before the economy becomes greater. It truly is an INVESTMENT a country makes for LATTER reward when they bring immigrants in.

As countries mature however the local birth rates tend to plummet. But gov'ts addicted to debt spending will not control it, thus REQUIRING ever higher levels of immigration. The equation does not work otherwise as you cannot pile on debt and at the same time have the economy shrink.


Taking this into Trumpland, this is where he is making his biggest mistake and leading the USA to be yet another bankruptcy on his long ledger of bankruptcies, if he could hold on to the spending power too long.

As Trump is adding Debt at record rates, while also cutting immigration which, while handing the cash to the uber rich and not instead investing it in the things that would foster the next levels of growth in America (Roads, High Speed National Rail, etc) is all a recipe for future disaster.

But he and the uber rich don't care because in the short term he is loading them up with cash and if the US crashes they will be in the best position to buy and profit. Again more short term as the country over all would be collapsing.

Only oligarchs get rich off collapse, average citizens only get rich off GROWTH.



(and my post is not arguing increasing immigration is necessary. A country could generate wealth without it but that necessitates birthrate growth, and without it no runaway deficits and debt)

Find something new : unemployment :: Just say no : drug addiction

wow

TRump doesnt need to defend them or prosecute them. Baffles me how you the DA plans on filing charges and taking their guns. They had a right to stand their ground on their property with legal guns. With everything going on at that time. I dont care weather their white wear khakis I have no clue how real their fear was . Though the wife needs to take some firearms training

They both need training, but she was especially terrible. Also, pretty sure standing there pointing your gun at people isn't legal in most states. They did, however, have the right to stand there with their firearms, standing their ground, but assault with a firearm isn't standing your ground.

Sounds like today's unhinged Trump rant was one for the ages

Yes but they did not commit assault. Sadly both Fox and CNN have a driven agenda here and both are wrong.

I'm not listening to Fox or CNN on this. I just know that in most states you can't wave firearms at people on the sidewalk. They weren't advancing on the couple; she was doing advancing. I don't blame them for having their arms ready, but you can't flail it around at people. Plenty of people have gotten put away for manslaughter for "standing your ground" when they thought they were in right to use it.

I wonder how long until Trump writes an angry tweet about Fox for this

Terrible headline, terrible response.....

Trump has zero nuance, he is really terrible....but the media is terrible as well. He gives a terrible response, and they go with that headline.

That's not a headline. It's a tweet. You're mad at a tweet that accurately describes what the President did in the video underneath it.

Hell, that description in the tweet is downright charitable. The tweet does not even come close to capturing the horror of Trump's trainwreck response.

How dare these filthy lyin' media describe what actually happened? Must be left wingers, muh news doesn't do that!

How come if a white female asks Trump a question he doesn't like, it's a terrible question, but if a black female asks Trump a question he doesn't like, she's also a nasty woman?

Missouri is a stand your ground state I do believe and that is what they did . We do not hear if the protesters threatened them and at the time folks were getting killed. I do believe they broke through a gate and were on private property. It was a bad image and its funny I have heard He helps black people for a living on one network and on the other He sued his family and made kids cry.

It probably is a stand your ground state. That doesn't mean you can point weapons at people off your property (even if the street is communally private) who are not advancing towards you.

People in TX have gotten strung up for standing their ground, and TX has some of the most lenient gun laws in the country (e.g., they let a guy get off of shooting two burglars in the back when they were evading someone else's house with a couple of bags of stuff and he was never in harm nor his stuff being taken).

But yeah, if they were saying they're going to kill them, then okay, but I haven't seen anything that indicates such.

I didn't realize that Ivanka outright just hocks products while being whatever position she is. Lol.

I watched all of Trump's recent speech and he makes some really great points and I'm not really sure how anyone can realistically vote for Joe Biden in this upcoming election.

His platform for running is basically saying a bunch of nonsense at the polar opposite end of Trump and his view for the future of the United States is basically some sort of utopian fantasy land with no rules where basically everyone just gets along. It's a total joke. At least Trump stands in some sort of reality and while you may not agree with his stance on some things it is still grounded in reality.

Maybe both candidates suck and it really does just come down to choosing the best of two bad options but Biden just comes off as a huge puppet that's done little to nothing in his time in politics and now is running a campaign based in a fantasy world, mostly just saying things opposite to Trump in an attempt to gain support from people that hate Trump.

It's such a pathetic campaign and I'd rather have Trump running the country than somebody that tries to win an election in that way which clearly shows he doesn't have what it takes to be a leader.

tHe mEdiA Is thE pRobLeM

lmao