Imagine seeing that and being proud he’s your president

Truly the golden age to be alive

Who has played more rounds of golf since trump became president: trump or tiger woods?

What more could he have done

No one knew masks could be so complicated...

He wore a mask before anyone else said to wear a mask

And definitely more than Obama.

It is just speculation or a guess but I stand by it.

Trump is not a Republican, true but that is my point. He exposed to the Republican base that they, themselves, are not really Republicans.

So imagine Trump goes down in a crushing loss. There is no new Trump like character who can lead the base of the party and in fact they no longer want that.

So what do they do. Find a true old school fiscal conservative, true Republican, and that base shifts behind him saying 'we are against deficits, we are against big government, etc' as a way to attack the Dem POTUS and rebuild?

I think, even amongst them the irony or outright laughter would be so high that they would not be able to build a new base around that message.

Trump exposed that narrative as absolutely false with over 90% undying support and the 10% trying to be the new party is not enough to cut it.

If Biden was caught like that Trumpsters would be saying it was just more proof of his obvious dementia and why he is not fit to be POTUS.

I don't think you have much irl experience with conservatives...

Of course, the Republicans will be able to build a new base if Trump loses in a landslide. I mean, the real enemy will still be libs who want to kill babies, confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens, don't believe in God and eliminate the police.

Well I am arguably a conservative.

I think you are speaking to a core part of that group having no problem being hypocrites and if that is your position I agree.

What I am speaking to is the broader group which is required to win elections, which includes many independent conservative and more moderate conservatives.

I think if you see this hard core Trumpian base suddenly turn a day after Trump's loss and start acting like they are the party against Deficits and government spending that it will not be believed and it will not re-create any type of coalition that can hold together.

It's Sunday, which means Trump orbit is Trumping on television

Tucker Carlson in 2024...

"Tucker 2024: Because Trump Wasn't Racist Enough"

Well that is the core Trump Maga crowd.

See my last post. What I am saying is that group alone on that message alone is not enough to govern. It does not motivate moderate republicans and independents who are required.

Trump got those others based on being 'unknown' and lying about what he could and would do. He has lost all of them (outside the hardcore MAGA) because now he has a record and we have seen what he will do.

So if Trump loses and they try to elevate a new Trump (Jim Jordan? Matt Gaetz??) to carry that mantle and delivering the message you say ("... the real enemy will still be libs who want to kill babies, confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens, don't believe in God and eliminate the police"), you will not even get the Trump hardcore base sticking with them in such high numbers as those guys cannot carry Trump's water.

None of them can get the ~90% support in that base Trump does.

And those guys certainly will not attract moderate or old school Republicans, or independents.

You know what, this is the rare occasion where you have made me rethink my prior post.

I have said and believe that there is no one in the Republican lineup that could carry Trump's water, should he go down in defeat and leave the party.

the current class of Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, et al just could not inspire that hardcore base and keep it together.

That said I would agree Tucker Carlson could. Tucker is basically a smart version of Trump who completely understands that base and how to manipulate them.

But I would bet huge money Tucker would never do it. If you see Tucker in any interviews or forums that are not to the Fox base, he is generally moderate.

He sees this Fox role as theatre and he is playing to an audience. But for himself and his kids, his family he would not want to truly be the heal which playing Trump in real life as a POTUS candidate would require.

He needs to staff up first...

Why do you like Tucker?

Rs--Hollywood, Foreigners and the Media are evil.

Prominent R Pols--Reagan, Schwarzenegger, Trump and now Carlson

Real easy to sit in the relative safety of the nice big blue bubbles and spout off about R-life lol. Not like many want to actually go live it though.

I am reluctant to think that either party will have a decades long stranglehold on power in a two-party system. Recessions or scandals happen and when they do, the power in power gets thrown out.

What you are saying sounds a lot like people who claimed after Watergate that the Republicans would not win the Presidency again for decades. One election later, the Republicans were back in power and scored one of the biggest landslides in U.S. history a decade after Watergate.

I could see a "defund the police" platform getting hung around the necks of Democrats everywhere in 2024 or even something else we never see coming.

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Trump has lost his edge. He can’t even get his rallies going anymore. His message doesn’t reverberate.

His only hope is that Biden is a complete disaster during the debates. And he might be. He isn’t quite all there.

All of the boomers were born in an era when the Ds had basically been in control for ~40yrs. And they think(or have been sold on the idea) we can bring that time back only with a completely different strat. The maga messaging is essentially built on the nostalgia for that time period--but they pine for the bad parts too, overt racism etc.