So, you're confusing/lumping together the mourner's and friends and family of George Floyd with the rioters and looters.
Com on man.
I'm really fvckin disappointed in you.

I think the bolded is maybe 95% and the other 5% is because he is an *******.

this won't affect the EV result but is very very telling, i think.

trump is polling very poor in R states........ today, kentucky and tennessee he's running 15 points below 2016 (and i mean margin over biden, not absolute support level as that might not add up to near 100)

i wonder if a state like missouri will be back in play in 2020......... obama almost won it in 2008.. and was considered a good swing state for many many years........ missouri, colorado, virginia and maybe indiana were swing states not that long ago. no more

I can't imagine the pressure the family would be under if they announced Trump was going to speak at the funeral from the protesters and rioters. I would be scared for my life if I was part of the family and we made that decision.

no way things would be like this with bush1, bush2, kasitch, dole, romney, mccain, jeb bush, rubio etc. etc....... they all would have reached out to the protesters and calmed everything down (and then maybe actually do very little about it).

i don't think trump supporters realize he is going to help usher in everything they hate. because of trump's obstinance, "white male privilege" is becoming an accepted phrase. a year ago, most reasonable people laughed at it.

I think this will be a very unique presidential election. I think it all comes down to who can shape the narrative if trump did a better or worse job on covid and the riots than what we would expect from Hillary if she won or if Biden were president now.

You are comparing one of the smartest and well spoken presidents of our lives to a guy who has trouble speaking.

That sort of makes sense. That's a lot better explanation, thanks. Even though don't agree with the sentiment.
I believe they would be glad to know that the president supports them and not the type of people who killed Floyd.

It's a controlled environment Mickey. The Fvckin Houston police are escorting the funeral for your information.

Love you man but, I hope you can have a little reflection.

Offering few specifics, Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear said his administration is committed to ensuring that 100% of the state’s black residents have health insurance.

“Every single individual in our African-American communities is to have a form of health-care coverage,” Beshear (D) said. “We’re going to put money into it, we’re going to put people into it, we’re going to make sure the community anchors are part of it.”

Beshear didn’t immediately comment on how he would provide coverage to people who don’t currently qualify for expanded Medicaid and don’t have insurance through their employer.

He also didn’t comment on how the state would defend against a lawsuit should someone allege the action is illegal race-based discrimination.

-Above is cut from an article. LOL at just straight up saying we are going to help people based on race.

In b4 "bahbah thinks white people get the short end of the stick" or "bahbah believes in black privilege".

that's so hypothetical...

i may be naive but if trump demonstrated that he had changed his tune and would be respectful, i think it would be ok to the protesters.

of course, that's like ted nugent or tucker carlson or rush limbaugh wanting to speak. it's not conceivable

mickey, thx for the comments

i think people just want trump gone...... and thankfully, bernie or EW didn't win the nomination as then there'd be the question of socialism..

as per biden, this was a long time ago, but apparently reagan didn't know what city he was in, nor what day of the week it was but that was ok for voters. i don't really see how that's changed.. reagan more popular than biden, but reagan way more far gone than biden

i don't think most reasonable people want 4 more years of this madness....... i do think you might have big rush back to any R candidate in 2024 (of course at some point demo changes in texas gonna make the presidential election unwinnable for R's. not sure it'll be 2024. maybe 2028)

Doesn't go far enough.

We need to specifically remove two white males from the state sponsored health plan for each black person added. The white males in question must then be tarred and feathered in town square.

Much like starting locally owned and minority operated small businesses on fire during a riot supposedly about the police, it's about sending a message. What message isn't important. Just... a message.

I would like the rioters/ looters crowd, you know, the people who don't see any protesters protesting for their rights but only thugs looting and pillaging, to answer one question.
Who do you see as the victim in all this, George Floyd!
Or, do you see the victim as a cop who was trying to do his job and wrongfully got charged and arrested?
What's your perspective?
Because if you think this cop is guilty of killing Floyd, than there is no way that you can be against the protesters.
Unless of course you believe in the cop and he was just doing his job.
We need to clarify where we are really coming from and stop hiding our true feelings by trying to make the victim the criminals and to the criminals the victim.

one thing i will say,

what about hispanics and treatment by police?

black stuff seems to crowd out so much other stuff.

i think poor people need help, regardless of race... racism does need to be addressed, but separately

No need to resort to medieval tactics like tarring and feathering; if we want to torture and humiliate them, we can just force them to live in one of your apartments for a week instead.

there is no valid argument for the main police man "just doing his job"

the other 3 police men i have alot of empathy for... what was the chain of command for those 4 officers? or maybe i just mean rank/experience

Yeah! How dare we help the people who need the most help!

Lol @ American politics, you guys don’t have democracy

Well played, ol' chap. Consider me zinged.

You'll be glad to know that vacancies look like they'll be rather minimal, all things considered. Only a few UWM units for August left to go.

I'm not sure if there is anyone here like you describe that you want to answer your question, but I will give it a go.

Why can there only be one victim? George Floyd was a victim, but so are others like him and others who got beat up, had property destroyed and/or their job/career/business temporarily or permanently taken from them by rioters and looters.

No, I don't think the cop was a victim.

My point is/was that we should help people based on needs and not based on race. The end result will mean we will help more black people than white people, but that is ok as long as we aren't ignored people just based on race.

You seem to agree with the governor and then disagree with him in your next sentence. Your 2nd sentence seems to agree with me that help should be based on needs and not race.

Race and need are inseparable in a society that is racist like ours is. Not wanting to mention race is to try to ignore a system of oppression. That black people are in the most need is not some accident.

Really ....?
Why you think the US dollar keeps its value even tho the US government print US dollars like a madman and bailout everyone with a huge debt if it’s not for the world reserve currency ?
The majority of countries debt in the world are US based currencies , that’s why the demands in the US Dollars is high and so keeps its value and majority of international transaction are made in US currency.

Ok. I understand where you are coming from. That's a reasonable answer.
But then why can't Trump speek at the funeral?
Why did you call the Floyd family rioters and looters?

Do you maybe have your values a little misplaced and mixed up?

Probably more because he is the kind of man who accused an old man which suffered serious injuries of being part of a vast non-existent conspiracy network.

Or the kind of man who delayed a pandemic response because he didn't like the headlines it would cause, and as a result many tens of thousands of people have died needlessly.

Or because he is the kind of man who mocks a citizen he was elected to lead from the pulpit, because said citizen was disabled.

Or because he is the kind of man who orders an attack on his own citizens because he wants his photograph taken.

The list could go on for an entire book.

"Authority". He is not an authority. He is an incompetent and lying figurehead at the head of movement which has gone so intellectually bankrupt that not a single inconvenient fact can be admitted and all lies are excusable. The only "authority" exists in the minds of the people who keep defending him. What you see is a complete absence of leadership.

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