Nazi...really? Great, it means you are running out of resources.

Thats exactly what im saying...BUT...in relation to all the others quality of live.
Those 100k where already dead...thats kinda off how i see it.
Besides that...percentage wise its negligible.

Just take one for the team so to speak!

We need to go back to the ''old normal'' asap...

Yikes.

I do agree with you though, I do think there should be a separate thread entitled LOLTRUMP, similar to the canada one, where those if us who don't want to pander to the rubes can just point and laugh.

Again, why are people engaging a troll? I know some of you find it to be petty entertainment, even satisfying, but you do realize that you lose every time you respond, right?

These posters are not here to win. They're here to waste your time...

What s stupid thing to say.

What is a "pure" CV death? What does that mean?

If not for CV would these people have died NOW?

A pure CV death is a death by CV by a healthy person.
So...no underlying circumstances. (age, condition, illness etc.)
Like in: if a 99 year old heavy smoker, powerdrinker dies...and has CV...he counts as CV death.
Pure CV deaths are very very hard to find.

But if anybody in here knows better please correct me!

Nearly everyone I know doesn't count if they died according to your pure CV death thing.

I like to think some of us count a little bit at least.

Exactly!!!
Thats why i will keep it as short as possible in the future!

But hey...why dont just we call this the Anti-Trump topic...and i will leave u guys alone.

Of course everybody counts!
But the point is: its ridiculous to shutdown a whole economy for this.
Unless u wanna live in ''the new normal''.

Trump wants to get back to ''old normal'' asap...cant see whats wrong with that!?

Trump doesn't actually want to get back to 'old normal'-- he is just saying that. Don't believe him.

It is hard to find because the term "pure CV death" does not exist and is stupid.

Pneumonia is not a "pure" CV death.

Dying of heart condition or brain or nervous condition system shut down is not a "pure" CV death.

Why? Because you are making up stupid meaningless distinctions that seem to suggest 'if the person was likely to die anyway of their under lying conditions it should not count when Covid forces it'.

My great aunt just died at the age of 97. Nothing to really mourn, she had an awesome life. But she did fight Cancer twice in her life, even losing a lung lobe to lung cancer in her 50's and developing diabetes in her 70's.

In your world if Covid was around and she died at 51 or in her 70's because she got Covid that should not count as Covid because she was weakened and susceptible due to her prior underlying conditions. This despite the FACT that if NOT for covid she would live to 97.

I've had mild pneumonia twice in my life. Once as a kid and the second in my early 20's. I am an athlete and perfectly healthy now and at the top of my peer group in terms of health according to my physicals and life insurance policy. I am at no real risk of premature death.

But once you get pneumonia you are more susceptible to getting it again and more severely each time. So if I get covid and do end up dying that is not a 'pure' covid death and thus should not count.


You are creating a situation that if a new (novel) disease comes in that just wipes out anyone with certain pre existing conditions, oh well, they would all die anyway so they should not count under this new disease. This disease is not serious.

That is painfully stupid. You are painfully stupid.

But as others said you are just trolling now so we should not engage you. And if you are not trolling that is pretty sad as you are simply too dumb to hold a conversation with.

^^^

Both the Flu and Pneumonia can and do damage the lungs leaving scarring and future susceptibility and potentially diminished capacity to fight it the next time.

So if a novel virus rips thru that has a significant death rate for ANYONE and EVERYONE who has ever had the flu or pneumonia and those people, many of which would have lives a statistically normal term life, all die, they should not really count as deaths attributed to the novel disease. After all they had the underlying conditions so they would have died eventually anyway.

Herp Derp.

Well...u r right!
But then again...no government does want to go back to old.
Thats the problem.

Anyway he wants to open up...and thats a good thing.

Im sorry about your aunt.
But the rest of your story is just not based on anything.
Pure CV deaths are just not there...except some exceptions.

But anyway...if u dont mind me asking...and basically asking it to all in here:
If there is no ''cure'' ever...would u want a life in the ''new normal''?
(with a 0,00000000000009% chance of dying) (second wave) (third wave) (Covid20) (Covid21) etc...

If so, that would be even more than ''painfully'' stupid.

Sorry officer but let me inform you that this is only 99% H

When a senior dies from the Flu. Do they not right that on the death certificate even if they had underlying conditions?
Though you are right that it is difficult to find anyone that dies from Covid that does not have an underlying condition. Sadly no pliticianor doctor seems to be talking about getting healthy and removing those underlying conditions

CV just boosts underlying stuff...mainly by old people.
Normal people dont even notice they have it.
But hey, lets shut down the whole economy, quality of life...etc

Hi,
im no expert obv...nor is WHO...so who can blame me.
Im just suggesting stuff concerning CV.
(wrong topic though)

All im saying is that the lockdown and all other consequences are not into proportions.

Soo...since this is a Trump topic...and 99% here are the good guys...i wonder why nobody attacks Trump for the whole lockdown situation at all.

Sorry, did not made the cut...

Ya troll on brother.

We have already shown why the idea of 'pure CV deaths' are stupid and only said by stupid people.

Again if tomorrow a novel virus arrives that literally kills EVERYONE who has any type of prior condition and it wipes out most of the population you would say 'ya but there are no "pure" deaths, ...so nothing to see here All those people had prior conditions".

That statement is as dumb as you are. You are making up a disqualifies that DOES NOT exist.

Lets throw out this lie and nonsense.

You don't die of any corona virus. You die based on what it triggers.

People can die of the common cold, but it is not 'you get the cold and you die a "pure" death", you die because you likely had a prior lung issue or heart issue and the cold triggered those issues causing death.

But a cold and phlegm do not kill. It is the irritation of other issues that do.

So the "pure death" is a lie. Same for the Flu which is not a corona virus but kills in the same way.

Those who argue this are purposely arguing a lie.

No, if they die at home and there is no autopsy the doctor will usually just write "heart disease" or whatever even with no proof just because most older people have it. If they die in a nursing home they will write whatever conditions were in the medical chart.

Actually the trumpers want to revert back to an even older 'normal'. Turns out it was pretty easy to get you to settle/pine for the new-old normal you guys all claimed you hated lol Jeez all this new/old/new-old normal stuff is ******* confusing. Maybe it's a better idea to just accept the reality that Life Is Change.

Your little red hat is going to be a mess of re-edits. There's no getting back to that place called used to be

We don’t need you and your total ignorance. This place is all full up of ignorant twits.

Trump posted an insane litany of tweets this morning. Absolutely bonkers. This is the Trump thread. How many of Trump’s tweets have you read TODAY!

**** YOU is how many.

We don’t need you because all you are doing is regurgitating the nonsense the others spewed before you. I know you think you are offering some new “gotcha” insight. You are not.

Do you think in May 2020 ANYONE who defends Trump or supports Trump should be taken seriously? (Obvious disclaimer I am sure you are not a trump supporter but a both sides cnn watching liberal just trying to expose the truth to the blind sheep). This is an essay question. Please submit your answer below.