The problem is polarity. Based on a couple articles I just read, it seems that the middle class is shrinking and people are moving up and also down. More up than down. Wages not really moving, although I didn't look closely to see if healthcare compensation was factored in

The argument that today is better than yesterday is effectively a truism and is sort of pointless to argue. Of course life is better for anyone compared to 10, 100, 1000 years ago. Global poverty, crime in the US, all trend down

But polarity has increased. Social media has exploded. And with that, every dark corner of the world has been put right in our faces on an infinite feedback loop of everyone's personal choosing. And you better believe capitalism is doing exactly that - capitalizing on how your brain works

The real issue is corruption, moral outrage, and the polarity that inequality is creating

Inequality is the designed result of capitalism. The poor stay at the same spot, the bottom, and the ceiling for wealth expands indefinitely. This is why we have higher living standards and lower crime/global poverty/war than ever. However, this is also why people are increasingly pissed off. The elites are becoming aristocratic, kleptocratic, oligarchic, nepotistic, and fighting every possible slippery slope they can with zero regard for morality

Why can't we have UHC if we're happy creating a Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates, and Buffett? What's the productivity of someone who commits suicide, can't get out of debt but has a 120+ IQ, can't seek opportunity bc health insurance won't cover medicine or a critical/crucial procedure? How is jailing more people than the entire planet productive? Why do people profit from that?

What do you define as "almost significant" bahbah? I know a lot of people who are born in poverty who will die in poverty who never had a chance in this country. The policies in place have funneled the worst this world has to offer into hubs of crime and hopelessness, while the suburbs a half hour drive away blame them for everything. I mean, one small example. This argument is pretty corny if you think that going from being hosed by police in the 60s on a bridge to being potentially shot by police over a taillight being out is a truism that life is indeed better. It's still a disgrace as a reflection of our society! Even if you aren't capable of being mindful of that when you argue straight economic facts...Human beings aren't just units of measure

I would venture to say that it's better to look at the moral character of how we treat others, particularly the vulnerable and weak. The disturbing quality of the human condition, to date, is that although we do reduce suffering as we function through time, many of us don't seem to care to do more. We are going to have trillionaires eventually. Do we have to wait that long to bump the safety nets up a notch, or at least make it so they have zero holes? I'm glad LeBron lives in a castle. I enjoy watching him have Taco Tuesday with AD. But it's only enjoyable with cognitive dissonance, because somewhere in that state are thousands of homeless sitting in tents with average people just dying to kick them for being eyesores...But therein lies the polarity. Gravitating toward the unraveling of social cohesion, it might not be relevant how a certain middle class person is doing. It might matter more that there may be no middle class left the way we're going. It's problem

Mickey dominates y’all everyday just by getting u to respond. It’s in your kitchens, he’s about to do your wives ,and u keep responding. He doesn’t want to get better, he wants to make y’all worse.

What was the interest rate on the home when purchased at 60k?

Pre Corona? Who exactly are you talking about?

People being more or less well off compared to 40 years ago is a different thing than the economy ignoring half the population. In fact, the latter claim is well-supported by expanding inequality data that you dismissed out of hand.

Same as here in Berlin Germany. Try to buy a flat! Nobody can afford it almost nobody.
300sqf is 1M. Looking at new York it's the same.
Even if bahbah said middle class it's not even close to right. The ship is sinking you just haven't noticed it for many peeps. That's bad for any economy. (Poker economy)

Around 6.5%. Edit, confirmed this number.

Interesting, I remember hearing stories from my dad about the house I was born in being bought at like 18% interest.

When was this? I think mid-80s was double figure interest? Haven't heard of it ever being as high as 18% though... Is this UK?

It's the scene that changed. Now we observed people who look just like you and me in the city who are walking around looking into garbage cans. They are looking very well dressed. And still they have to or are looking into garbage cans.
You know what they look for? I was for a while speechless when I saw them doing this.
They are collecting cans! So they get the money you know?

Well you know what this is saying? Because this sight was never seen before. People in the middle class especially or maybe older people don't have as much as they used to.

All I am saying that for these people, the middle class and the poor imo trump is bad.

This is not hyperbole, exaggeration, or trolling, this is how Trump’s brain works. He has been anti testing from day 1 and remains totally against it because all testing does is turn up people who have the virus.

He even demonstrated this into relation to those getting tested in the White House. When people were getting tested and then tested positive he got mad and said that testing was worthless if people who tested negative could later test positive.



The president still does not know how testing works even though every single expert says it is a cornerstone to successfully reopening. His runaway narcissism has his only concern being that testing identifies people who are sick thus making him look bad.

I don’t believe he thinks that if you don’t test people won’t get sick and die, but I do think his ability to process information prevents him from ever proceeding to that next level.

BUT... how would anyone else, say Hillary Clinton for example, ever been able to do any better? Meanwhile third world countries have had better tests than the US for months.

I won’t even get into trump still claiming, as of today, the virus will just go away on its own. He really just wants to push everything past the election and hope his followers are dumb enough to re-elect him.

Interest rates definitely reached the mid teens (say 13%-15%) back in the 80s. But it also meant you could actually earn legitimate interest from you bank account. Also people carried significantly less debt.

While high interest rates were not ideal for some things, the overall circumstance was still vastly superior than now. You could still have a single earner support a middle class family, a home and a car or two. There is not really a middle class anymore, just a vast swath of working poor and to support a traditional family you need two incomes and a lot of debt.

No tests. No Corona. Easy game. Why can't you libs use your damn brains

Trump's idiocy was on full display when after Pence's aide tested positive for the virus, one day after testing negative, and Trump took that as a reason why 'testing was not necessarily good'.

No, you idiot, just because you get some false tests does not mean testing is not good. it means you must test more.

Pence's aide getting caught in the second day test is PROOF why testing is needed to stop the spread. If she was never tested or only tested once a week (instead of daily) she almost certainly would have spread it all thru the White House.

Testing almost certainly saved Trump from getting it and yet he is so dumb he does not comprehend that.

That’s our good ole racist president we love so much. #Trump2020

We now have a whole slew of examples where trump thinks people of certain ethnicities or groups know everyone else of a similar background. From blacks, to Chinese to Indians. It is so very Archie Bunker of him.

First off, the claim that the economy is ignoring half the population is so incredible stupid and you know it. The only reason you are supporting this argument is because I pointed out how stupid it was and you love arguing with me.

Think about all the products and services that have been invented in the last 5, 10, 20, 30 or 40 years. How many of them benefit more people in the top 10% than the bottom 90%? A very small fraction.

There is no other country in the history of the world that has said if you create a product that makes life better or easier for the masses we will make you rich quite like the USA today.

Continually using race/ethnicity to start **** Sounds like what guys like him accuse every one else of doing all the time

But he said he would tell any reporter to ask China.

And an Indian American doesn't have a prime minster in India. They by definition live here and have a President. So if anything, they should be saying hi to trump.

Do you live in a bigger house than your parents? I do, but only because my parents gave it to me. Curious to know how much you made it on your own....

Clearly questions for trump need to start being re-directed to Merkel

Mitch McConnell admitted he made a mistake when he said Obama didn't leave a pandemic response strategy. But what's funny is that even bringing it up shows how little confidence even "supporters" like McConnell have in Trump's ability. Trump has been POTUS for about as long Obama was when Sandy hit. Could you imagine Chuck Schumer going on TV and talking about George W Bush hurricane recovery guidelines in 2012 ? Obama was specifically elected to undo the real incompetence of Bush. Republicans only pretend Obama was incompetent to get money.....in an emergency they know the leftover competency from the Obama administration is what we have to rely on.

Better, more available blow and no condoms. You may have a point!

If you're a darker shade of white though...

Every party needs a pooper.

What up Waldo ?

Odds are he lives in a house the exact same size, color and address as his parents.

https://www.jobqualityindex.com/ job quality has been going down for 30 years. More lower paying jobs and lower unemployment isn't necessarily better for Americans.