I like how it's pretty much accepted on both sides that the demented ****er has a vocabulary of about 70 words that he struggles to use to form coherent sentences, but everyone wants to start looking for nuance in what he says to suit their agenda.

There is no nuance. There is no subtlety. The man can literally barely pronounce half the words he says, and is unable to read from a script. He is suffering from a degenerative cognitive disease.

If he has a noun in the same sentence as the word "hoax" or "fake", he is calling that thing a "hoax" or "fake". Or, do you want to start parsing gems like the below for hidden meaning?

Whoever put the punctuation into that stream of consciousness word salad was being as generous to Trump as possible under the circumstances. And still, if someone posted like that here, they'd probably be banned after about a day.

Honestly, as I was reading this, I jumped back and forth 5 or so times between whether or not you were talking about Biden or Trump.

Hey, at least the guy in the back at the left is wearing a mask (not counting the clown prince in the middle). That is kind of funny/ironic, and perhaps he has some awareness of what their story follow up may be in a few weeks. Thoughts and prayers!

I wonder if any of the posters here who represent that charming little slice of humanity would be out there with those fine individuals or not. If not, why not.

Yeah, I guess I was a bit loose with the "pretty much accepted on both sides". I guess pretty much everyone accepts it about Biden, but there are still plenty of Trumptards out there who will tell you that the 3D Chess Maestro has an IQ of 150 and it's all a big level to own the libs.

That lady looks like the posterchild for years of alcohol abuse.

See this is the thing. Leadership matters. Especially in times like this. Those deflecting blame from trump really have little defence of him other than to attack. Which seems to be standard operating practice across the pond these days. Who cares if the media is out to get him. That does not somehow absolve him of his complete incompetence.

I personally believe our government are a useless shower, but at least they're getting it:

""How we communicate as a government has a direct impact on the amount of cases that we have and therefore the amount of people who die," Mr Hancock said."

This is an interesting take, I'd never thought about it like this but I think you're absolutely right. This is obviously anecdotal (and as most of us know, the plural of "anecdote" is not "data"), but, growing up I was the biggest little **** possible, I used to lie, cheat, steal, all of it. Lying was second nature to me, it was actually easier than telling the truth. I would even lie about things that didn't matter, a la Trump.

Then something happened when I was 21. I went to prison for stealing. I did a year, and after I got out, I was a different person. That was almost 20 years ago, and I think I'd struggle to find one lie I've told since then, at least to anyone who matters.

Lying does matter, despite the fact that a lot of people do it a lot of the time. I find it easier to tell the truth, even though occasionally it's to my own detriment.

I like Rishi, and I'm far from a tory supporter, but I think I could actually have a beer and a chat with Rishi! He seems like a decent guy, and smart af too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_lying

Yeah I mean at the end of the day he's still a tory, but I like him too. Everything he's doing is far more in line with Labour policy, so that probably has something to do with it.

He is defying gravity at the moment. Rishi is a young, ex Goldman Sacks, hedge funding managing, passionate brexitering fiscal hawk who married the daughter of a billionaire. He is not on the left, even of the tory party.

He happens to have come to the fore when covid has forced unprecedented spend, spend, spend but that's not down to him - there was absolutely no other option but to spend big in the UK at the moment.

Sounds good to me, let me know when he gets divorced and I'm in there.

I mean, I'm not a ****ing leftist, I've just been painted as such by the joes and redbucks of this world because I think Trump and his supporters are a scourge on humanity, and in their book, everyone who thinks that is a leftist. No, idiots, I just like things like "truth", "facts", "logic" and "science".

I could easily shack up with a tory. A religionist, not so much, but a tory, sure.

Fair enough. I am a leftist and I could also shack up with a tory.

Anything to do with UK politics fails in a trump thread because we just can't compare. Trump is awful on a different scale.

yeah and cars and planes and whatnot. not for cosplay picture posing.

I heard Trump called the whole virus thing the Dem's new hoax. Is there any linkage on that or just hearsay?

Aren't you the dude who ran the fascist petri dish in here? Doesn't seem too leftist to me.

That's one take on it. I'm a leftist in my political views but I don't do the other stuff. I don't have a problem with the joes and redbucks of this world even though i profoundly disagree with them.

Wut? What other views can you be "leftist" in, other than political?

I agree so that makes me a leftist by any standards. All the personal, ostracising, shaming etc etc stuff is not required and I don't support that at all.

Not sure what you mean. I'm not PC by any standards, and sure, I shame mother****ers for being mother****ers. You sound like bahbah when, earlier in the thread, he formulated the epiphanous principle that David Duke's views towards the other races are not political, they are personal.

So, any time someone holds views we find inconvenient, we call those "personal views", and all the other views, we call those "political views", amirite?

Sure and I don't support the shaming thing. But my political views and support are close to Corbyn and I'm going to boldly call that being a leftist.

Very happy to call them political views. They're not remotely my views though.

In the end if, despite the policies and party that I support, you require my support for shaming etc to qualify as a leftist then you wont get it.

Quoted in case anyone thought I was making this up. You heard it here first, kids, Nazism is just a personal foible, not a political ideology. You know, like eating too much ice cream.

So, chez, what do you think? Just let it slide, no harm no foul? I mean, what's the worst that can happen, right?

Why was Windows 95 so buggy? I mean, they had 94 ****ing goes at it!