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the university of alabama is threatening to rescind and ban students/fans from their reserved seating in future bama games if they protest at the alabama vs LSU game.

im sure we will have all the standard right wingers here up in arms about this obvious abuse of free speech on college campuses.

Many, if not most, colleges have a designated "free speech zone." If the stadium is in fact a designated " free speech zone", then any fans should be able to protest.

If the stadium is not a free speech zone, then the powers-that-be can prohibit protesting.

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11-06-2019 , 05:26 PM

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Bevin did tie himself to trump, but he went insanely hard to the paint against kicking the can down the road on teacher's pensions. He said some things about teachers that trump himself would have been proud to say.

Andy Beshear basically ran on the campaign that he'd make sure tax payers were still on the hook for teachers pension, allow adults to make the decision to gamble with their own money & legalize pot. I don't care about the pot and am happy about the pro-gambling stance, but the way state gov't closes their eyes and pretend pensions aren't a problem is rage inducing.

Why shouldn't they be on the hook for the pensions?

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11-06-2019 , 05:55 PM

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It is ****ed up...but

seems like a bit of spin you/the hill added. I was seriously about to be up in arms, till I read about it...and it's false a narrative.

how is this a false narrative? you literally bolded what i said. if you think the student government is literally only run by other students and that this is some kind of self policing then you haven't ever been involved in a college. they are always simply just an arm of the administration.

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11-06-2019 , 06:13 PM

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Who in their right mind tries to conflate booing at a sporting event with "disruptive behavior"?

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11-06-2019 , 07:08 PM

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I'm greatly offended that one of MY posts isn't the dumbest thing that you ever read.

Winning!!!

Keep trying lag...

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11-07-2019 , 02:53 AM

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Why shouldn't they be on the hook for the pensions?

Just because you contractually agreed to it as being compensation for labor for decades of a person’s life doesn’t mean you should have to pay it.

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11-07-2019 , 08:13 AM

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I'm not saying it isn't a scam. I think it is highly unlikely to be a scam, but it could be. The far more likely scenario is that the winners aren't the type to talk politics in front of friends let alone shout from the rooftops (aka say on social media) who they are donating money to.

There are so many things to hate trump for and you want to raise a stink because you and some author don't know anyone who won one of trump's "have dinner with me" drawings? Go to CNN.com and ever day you will come up with 15 new better reasons to hate trump than this and some may be true.

Update: to refute the claim the Trump administration released the names of two winners. One went to a breakfast put on by the campaign but not one with Trump and the other won a contest where you got to meet the President but not have a meal with him. The other 15 or so contest winners aren't revealed though legally they're supposed to if you write to them.

https://popular.info/p/update-trump-campaign-contest-to

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11-07-2019 , 08:31 AM

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The infamous Breakfastgate Scandal.

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11-07-2019 , 08:41 AM

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Lol no. Not even a little bit. Most instances of Presidents in public do not actually lead to boos let alone deafening boos. I have been at sporting events where many presidents have attended and booing was never a thing of any substance.

You are a ridiculous person.

I can confirm that.

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11-07-2019 , 08:45 AM

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The infamous Breakfastgate Scandal.

I think since this is merely technically fraud and not out and out fraud on vets and the poor like Trump University or fraud on charity laws that lead Trump charities to be banned in New York that we can let this slide and just file it under normal Republican fundraising fraud, not that big of a deal.

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11-07-2019 , 10:05 AM

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They need to release the contest winner names as required by law but have we seen the actual rules of the contest themselves? When you got to sign up they are probably listed and might say something about the breakfast being with Donald Trump or someone in his campaign.

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11-07-2019 , 12:30 PM

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So straight up fraud?

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11-07-2019 , 12:35 PM

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Or not :

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PRIZE DESCRIPTION: One (1) winner will receive round-trip transportation and accommodations for two (2) to attend a breakfast event featuring President Donald J. Trump to be identified by Sponsor (collectively, the “Prize”). The Prize includes the following components:
Round-trip coach class airplane tickets for winner and winner’s guest within the fifty United States, Puerto Rico, or District of Columbia;
One (1) night accommodations for winner and winner’s guest at a hotel to be designated by Sponsor in its sole discretion;
Two (2) tickets to attend the rally; and
Ground transportation at the discretion of Sponsor.
The total approximate retail value of the Prize is $3000.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/pages/b...epstakes-rules

I can not account for if this is just fake news considering the source website, donaldjtrump.com

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11-07-2019 , 02:11 PM

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Haha what a bunch of dumbasses. Probably out there frantically trying to get the contest winners to sign nda's.

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11-07-2019 , 03:07 PM

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Or not :

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/pages/b...epstakes-rules

I can not account for if this is just fake news considering the source website, donaldjtrump.com

So is it a rally or a breakfast? Because the breakdown doesnt specify a breakfast

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11-07-2019 , 03:18 PM

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Why shouldn't they be on the hook for the pensions?

Humm, good point. We should leave social security as it is too because hey we promised everyone it.

After looking at the last 3,000 posts I am predicting we are going to have to hear about trump's lunch partners for 18 more hours until you clowns find something else to cry about. The most powerful man in the world is making YUGE decisions & we are criticizing him for his team inviting or not inviting people to lunch?

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11-07-2019 , 03:29 PM

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So is it a rally or a breakfast? Because the breakdown doesnt specify a breakfast

I thought that too but it also mentions a breakfast headlined by Donald Trump.

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11-07-2019 , 03:33 PM

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No we are just pointing out more crimes he is committing to lay at the feet of those who are so dumb they still support and defend him at every turn.

What big decisions is trump making today? If Obama had done this it would have led to insta impeachment, so lol you. It is just another notch in a massively long and uninterrupted illegal and corrupt group of actions that have shadowed over every single day of the presidency.

We get it. You don’t care if the president commits any crimes. You bend yourself into an absurdist pretzel to try and argue clear crimes are not even crimes. You are a silly goose.

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11-07-2019 , 03:58 PM

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If Obama had done this it would have led to insta impeachment, so lol you.

Yeah, because the media, general public and other politicians hated obama and love trump, right?

Don't get me wrong, this part of your post is really stupid, but the rest of your post is even worse.

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11-07-2019 , 04:07 PM

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AP: Judge orders Trump to pay $2M for charity foundation misuse

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11-07-2019 , 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey

Humm, good point. We should leave social security as it is too because hey we promised everyone it.

?

That's not an answer. If the people of Kentucky chose, by electing a government that entered into a contract with teachers, to defer a portion of teacher benefits into a defined benefit retirement plan, why should they then just be allowed to refuse to pay it? It's not the teachers fault that the people of Kentucky chose to ignore the issue.

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11-07-2019 , 04:41 PM

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I should add that I'm assuming the governors plan affected existing teachers and not just new hires, which was my understanding for the retirement age requirement and health plan contribution changes.

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11-07-2019 , 06:06 PM

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chair of the AZ gop asking the hard hitting questions on twitter.

do we need a state electoral college process because actual people have far too much say in rejecting conservatism..

reminds me of a quote i saw somewhere that was like, "if conservatives start to realize they can't win democratically, they won't abandon conservatism, they will begin to reject democracy."

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