As should your post count in this forum, but we don't live in an ideal world.

I am not sure how we can really know as the statistics only include 63% of counties and not California and NY

I wonder what he thinks the ideal crime rate for citizens should be. lol

If it's not zero, what do we do if the citizen crime rate is too low? Is there some psa we can run on the radio to fix it?

Who told you that nonsense? If you bothered to read you'd see that those places were explicitly studied.

Where are you getting these participation rates from? Also what was the participation under Trump?

I only ask because I looked this up and this is what I see claimed:

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/05/tr...me-statistics/

Purge, ldo.

Yes also people misrepresent data not being reported to the FBI to data not being reported at all. These statistics can in theory be crosschecked to state reporting statistics. The problem comes from people cherrypicking which statistics to use based on the point they want to make, like when Desantis used FBI statistics in his presidential campaign.

Pass new laws .

Of course it's not in the least surprising that you would totally miss the point of my post.

Nobody missed your point. As usual, everyone thought it was moronic and not worth responding to.

I think they’re worth responding to (to debunk) the problem is that he never continues down a thread and just throws in his random crap without wanting to back it up.

I mean, his point, if you can call it that, is "the number of illegal immigrants should be zero". Sure, world peace would be good too. What's there to debunk?

Well it's, a lot, of added crime (rapes and murders included) which I guess is fine with you. And we could probably have them take the lead if we expelled all of our thugs in say, Chicago.

If he was trying to alienate Catholics, it seems like he did a good job.

I’m sure Brian « brain » james would be the first at the gates of farmers at 430am , ready to work at 8$ an hours for 12 hours straight , 6 days a week ….

Tbh, I have a suspicion he's some sort of vagrant, posting here when he has enough change to get a coffee and use the Starbucks WiFi, so he might well be.

Sure, I'm ok adding groups of people who contribute less crime than citizens do. Why wouldnt I be? With logic like yours, you should be in favor of forced abortion for citizens. Adding more citizens would increase crime by more than adding immigrants would.

Well for certain citizens, sure

According to Trump, Arnold Palmer was packing some serious trouser sausage. Trump really has become the crazy Grandpa that is missing a couple marble and DGAF and will just say anything at any time.

MOAR RAPE AND MURDERS OK AS LONG AS ITS UNDER THE AVERAGE

Last time it was discussed, I think everyone agreed that illegal immigrants commit more crimes than the non-black population. So obviously, more crime than the median or legal immigrants.

It's also just kinda common sense. If you are wanted for rape in Mexico, the obvious move is to move to the US and start over. I have met a guy who told me he moved here to avoid criminal prosecution.

Most countries won't allow immigrants with records, and it can be hard to even visit. Do you think that's a foolish policy?

IMO it's foolish to be deceptive about these things. The other side is going to score points off obvious lies. Almost nobody actually believes totally unfiltered immigration has no cost.

The solution is some kind of reform where immigration is much easier, but people are filtered. Not just pretending it isn't an issue.

More is less apparently.

I'm unconcerned with what people agreed to. What I said is supported by evidence, not simply asserted or accepted by acclimation.

Actually, it is "OK" if it's all random, Because the immigrant population will be the victims of some of those crimes, both from immigrant criminals and American criminals. The chances of a non-immigrant being a victim goes down.

david, are you saying that it's ok if immigrants rape so long as they only rape other immigrants?