You've pretty much described every white collar case here. How do you think people get convicted of e.g. fraud or insider trading? Nothing unusual about having a money trail and then witnesses testify as to what representations the defendant made or what the defendant knew and when.

I didn’t know trump had so much death threat and attempt on his life by democrats .
Another democrats conspiracy act (like Biden laptop) buried by mainstream media’s .

There are emails or video proof often enough btw.

But again the "detail" is that if you are asked to judge about a controversy related to people you know nothing about, you will be able to judge impartially. If something smells wrong in the prosecution case you will be able to notice that, if the defense is weak, non-existent, you will be able to notice that.

You will be able to judge with the necessary nuance if the case is complicated.

But lol at doing that if say one party is a company that fired you for what you believe was unjust cause.

Well that, and this:

Are quite the goalpost shift from:

So are you expecting a lot of jurors were chosen that could say "I ****ing hate the accused and I consider him an horrible person beyond repair"?

I expect everyone who vote democrat to believe that + a decent number of other people, which means 70%+ of NYS adults, you don't?

No, but that's not what I asked. I asked you about the jurors that were selected.

95%+ of the potential jurors were partial and should have been stroke down because of that.

Only the most blatant such cases were removed.

I fully expected most of the 12 jurors to have had strong opinions about trump before the trial started.

I understand legally that's not enough to remove them from the jury because you guys believe in fairy tales.

If as rococo thinks (and he is far better at this than me to be clear) one (or more) of them will hang the jury because they are biased pro trump I don't want to hear whining.

But in general the expectation someone who has an opinion on trump could judge this fairly is absurd, incredible, fully irrational, deeply misguided

Which is another goalpost shift that still doesn't answer the question.

No, that's just your projection again. It's very possible to have an opinion on Trump and judge him fairly. It wouldn't be shocking, given your penchant for seeing things as very black and white, that you would be unable to do so. Others are capable of doing so.

Of course, those who could say "I ****ing hate the accused and I consider him an horrible person beyond repair" are potentially problematic, and that's why there's a jury selection process.

Are multi-millionaires who continuously break gag orders normally only punished with fines of under $10K? How is that supposed to be any kind of punishment or disincentive?

Don't all Trump supporters know he is lying about everything related to all of the trials? I thought the whole thing, as just mentioned by someone else, was that they think everyone lies about all these things, but that Trump is the only one who gets prosecuted for them (of course that is also a lie).

Then I guess he has nothing to worry about?

Bobo fighting the good fight against luciom's kaleidoscope of goalposts

as I said, no one claims he followed election money management rules perfectly, as no one is ever expected to do that, and no one is ever prosecuted for that basically.

they all use political funds for their vacations, their mistresses, their clothes and so on, their and their families personal consumption.

so ofc he is liable for some rule breaking about that, that's a given, as everyone else with sizeable political funds to spend is and was.

that was something I wrote at the very beginning

do you know how juries are selected? are you arguing that because his lawyers suck the process is unfair?

Right, so why would it matter if someone who assumes everything Trump says is a lie, if even his supporters know that?

Basically everyone knows he is guilty. Everyone on this forum knows he is guilty. Every potential juror knows he is guilty. All the evidence that will be shown in the trial is already public knowledge. By all rights, he absolutely should go to prison. The only problem with anti-Trump jurors is that they very well may do what everyone knows should be done. However, if a Trump supporter is on the jury, he may very well vote non-guilty even though he knows Trump is guilty. So it really doesn't matter how many Trump-haters are on the jury, how many Democrats are on the jury, how many never-Trumper Republicans are on the jury, as all of them will give a fair verdict. The only people on the jury whose bias can make any kind of difference are people who are so pro-Trump that they basically want to do a jury nullification.

It's a dictionary definition Bribe no matter how you slice it. And everybody knows it.

Republican pols would've been stroking out on the Capitol lawn if they had any recent D Pres. in such a straight up jackpot. Clinton got impeached for 1 half-truth and a little fun during Executive Time--no other Pres. was torched for including his predecessor. But there was plenty of wailing lol

I guess it is a good thing Trump only lost one sexual assault/rape case based on he said/she said. Of course that was really a she said, because he decided to not attend the trial or testify. Hard to be mad about a he said/she said issue when he won't give his side of the story, but you be you.

In the hush money case, they are using his own organizations business records to hang him.

Fascist and extremist political parties (backed by fanatics) can’t conceive that some “voters » aren’t as fanatic as them and can have higher priorities and beliefs in how to judge people .
Politics and ideology isn’t everything for some and can have ethics , justice and moral values higher in their decisions process .

Some participants here just don’t get it ….

You know they will find some crazy alternative reality to disregard those physical evidence like they did with the Georgia phone call by trump.

You have no basis to believe this is true.

You don't know who was or was not removed for cause or why.

I didn't say that I necessarily expected a hung jury.

Everyone has some kind of opinion about Trump unless they have been living in a cave. He was the POTUS for four years. It would be literally impossible to empanel a jury under your proposed standard.

Couldn’t we say that it was trump idea to be president and trump idea to act like he did being president .
knowing how crooked he is , trump shouldn’t be surprise to have a hard time in court .
Maybe it was his idea all along , to become so controversial he hoped to be impossible to judge , trying to gain a free pass from the judicial system ?
Who know what crazy and dumb idea can come out from him ?

But in the end all of this was seeded by him anyway .
If I was a crooked, why would I bring all this light in my affairs by running for president ?

It's amazing to me that you want all manner of vigilante justice, which by definition doesn't require any standard of proof, but if a person is actually arrested, you want the burden of proof to be much, much higher than it already is.

Front/back. The back of my head is ****ing outstanding.

I've learnt recently ITT that Trump's back side is pretty cute as well.

i mean, that guy is not wrong though