When did I say dems masterminded the blm riots? I just said many dems supported them and not many repubs did.

Where did I say millions of people were killed during the blm riots?

When did I say 1/6 was a tour of the capital?

Hint: I didn’t say any of these things.

I never said Clinton is 100% to blame for 2008, but I have said (and still support the idea) that Clinton is more to blame for 2008 than any other president. He approved a law requiring banks to lower standards for giving mortgages to people and the main reason 2008 happened is because too many people owned homes that didn’t have the income to support the size of their mortgage.

When you create a law such as this you have to realize the chance of a 2008 type of event happening within 6 months to a year of it passing is near 0%. It takes years for a bubble to burst in many cases.

I don’t care what someone I don’t know thinks about me.

I want tax cuts because I think they are good for the economy, the poor, the middle class and the rich long-term.

This has been repeated over and over again ITT and I don’t think you are going to get any takers anymore on this. Nobody believes you are stupid enough to believe it was trump leading the way on trying to shut the economy down for as long as it was. Find something else to troll about that is a bit more believable.

With Easter coming up, Donnie's obviously not going to pass up on the chance to make a shameless quick buck!

Amusing article from The Independent: Trump takes on unlikely new role for Easter – Bible salesman

No, I did not say he was leading the way on shutting the economy down as long as it was. Obviously after he was out of office he was no longer leading the way.

Funny how you just went out of your way to say people accused you of saying things you did not, then in the very next post you deliberately misstate my position.

chill Rob can you list the actual EO , or actions by federal agencies, that closed significant portions of the economy under the Trump admin in 2020? thx

even if severely overweight, he does appear to be far more energetic than most people his age at least when talking yes, like that's not even close? I think that might be easily linked with him having being a non smoking tee to taler all his life afaik (which is one of the most disturbing aspects regarding him paradoxically at least for me, but i am Italian so I don't trust men who never drink, what are they hiding?) , which i think is extremely rare for a 77y old man (might become more common in the future).

Chilrob the free money to stay at home was decided by Congress almost unanimously.

POTUS never locked down anything domestically because that's not a power POTUS had.

every lockdown, every stay at home, every business closure in the USA was a local decision.

maybe you are confusing with other governments of other countries

This is for sure.

At my dads 60th i remember so many of his old friends looked AWFUL in comparison to him and some of my friends dad's.

Lives of binge drinking, or manual labour, or excessive stress were all blamed.

And that was at 60.

Trumps clearly incredibly old n at risk of illness more than Barack was and his mental capacities are undeniably in decline. But hes in great shape for his age

No, but I can tell you that I saw him on TV saying things should shut down. Do you think that had no influence on anything?

Yep, after he called for it. He even made sure his name was on the checks, because he wanted credit for it. But now you don't think I should give him credit for it?

We can provenly say it didn't.

If Trump had any influence on shutting down, being extremely divisive and deeply hated by democrats, who 24/7 criticized him about everything for his whole presidency, that would have led to republican controlled states shutting down more and for longer than democrat controlled states obviously.

Given it was the literal opposite, we can claim with absolute certainty that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with the *LOCAL* decisions (it was, i repeat, all local) to shut down the economy and life in general, their width, their length.

Trump was responsible for the extreme reduction of crossborder travel because of covid and that's about it.

Not "now", you shouldn't credit a part of government for what other parts of government do, both for what you consider good decisions, and bad decisions. At most you can credit Trump for not having vetoed that money (which wouldn't have mattered as the act had veto proof majorities behind it).

I understand americans of both parties have this extreme bias according to which potus (which is fairly powerful) is considered omnipotent and responsible for most political events in the nation, but he isn't.

Potus doesn't have the power to spend taxpayers money according to his will, potus doesn't have the power to lockdown domestically.

And your (american) bias is so extreme, you even think the same applies to other countries, like when american media claimed "Bolsonaro didn't lockdown brasil", and in brasil , like in the USA, bolsonaro had no power to lockdown almost anything, and most brazilian states did lockdown.

If only you would practice what you preach. You are just like joe6pack.

So "more energetic than most people his age when talking" equals athletic outlier that plays golf at top level?

no, but might equate "significantly better than the average 77y old man who plays golf at least once per year".

I already accepted the explanation about why his bragging about being a champion is almost certainly a lie.

It would probably save a lot of time to operate on the principle that everything Trump says is a lie until proven true rather than vice versa.

I sometimes think you can apply that rule to every politician

Ah, the good old "Trump lies, so what, they all do" defense, completely ignoring the fact that Trump is a compulsive liar who lies about literally everything. But, but, this other guy lied once, so they're basically the same, right?

No I would agree Trump lies more than any other politician . Remember I live in Canada were our leader lies on a continuous basis. Its not a defense I would love to see the presidential debate with both candidates hooked up to lie detectors . Than we allow Fox to ask Biden Questions and CNN ask Trump questions .
Also the statement Trump lies about everything is not accurate as well

It's generally just a mistake to think truth or falsity has much to do with politcians say.

With the worst like trump (or boris) they say what suits them. Truth/falsity is largely incidental so assuming truth or falsity is usually a silly mistake. The truthfulness of their statements is mostly related to how much they perceve they will be punished if what they say isn't true.

Lol

He is among the best golfers at 77.

You're right. He is also the best presidential golfer ever imo. At least recent presidents and that worldwide.

Aha, that's awesome. Chillrob representing the ignorance of at least half the thread, or people, dems in general.

No trump admin didn't get the ball rolling. They were just the admin in charge at the time of the start.

And the they got replaced by the covid admin/ rescue Biden and covid czar fauci.
What followed was reign of TYRANNY and ****ups. Where the dems played crooked bc they were in bed with the pharmas and the repubs trying to stay rational.

And from there it went all downhill, fast.

Actually trump can break 80 according to mcllroy who played with him.

Most pros put him the 80-90 range. That was 7 years ago.