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02-19-2024 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
He has? He can't even write coherently so I didn't really understand wtf he was trying to say. I just read it as his usual "there is this thing that happened somewhere in the world that people are talking about so I should mention it in passing BUT HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME!!!"
I certainly don’t think he was trying to say that, which is what makes it hilarious, but if he’s equating himself to Nalvany there’s no other interpretation other than Putin killed Nalvany and that’s what Biden’s doing to him
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02-19-2024 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Can’t tell if you’re trolling. Are you saying you’re not aware that companies steal billions of dollars from their employees via wage theft?
You said the law was well-enforced. If billions are stolen continually, then it's not being enforced much at all, right?

What does that have to do with your, "Oh, I worked an extra 30 minutes the other day and that wasn't reflected on my paycheck so I'll just correct the oversight by helping myself to the cash register today" scenario?

Obviously what I'm saying is if you're shorted, let someone know so they can correct it. If they refuse to, quit. Balancing the books through illicit means just complicates things.
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02-19-2024 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
People realize Gavin Newsom is going to be the candidate, yes? Those wheels are already in motion. Don't klll the messenger, but that is going to be happening. Not saying I like it or agree with it, but that is highly probable.

If anyone were to pardon Trump, it would be a horrible mistake because he would then just bloviate all day on Truth and work to continue to undermine democracy in the US, all while still holding a MAGA grip on entire Republican party.
It's possible, but if you think it's "highly probable" I might be interested in some action
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02-19-2024 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
To my point about the majority of Trump supporters being certifiable morons - you pretty much have to be, to vote for someone who writes like a 13 year old texting for president.
Are you saying that's unpresidented?
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02-19-2024 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Are you saying that's unpresidented?
l00K aT Me i aM vERy VerY pResIdEntIaL
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02-19-2024 , 03:53 PM
In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call

Which cites this study where DT continues so much winning in #45!
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02-19-2024 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
My post wasn't clear. I was focusing on how much you do or do not care about democratic principles. You have suggested that the actions Trump took after the election were not much of a threat and not that big a deal. IMO, that position implies a lack of intelligence, a lack of understanding, or a lack of concern. You don't seem unintelligent. I was speculating that the third option was more likely that the second option, but I could be wrong.
Ok thank you for the kind words.

To clarify my position better, if american democracy can't hold steady with trump elected (which I think it would, easily, you disagree with this assessment), it doesn't deserve to exist in the first place nor to lead the world.

So for me it's either a bad model undeserving of existing gets thrown out, or the actually strong and resilient American democracy keeps going (like during and after the first trump term).

Either case we don't lose.

No election result should ever be able to nullify democratic pillars, unless it's 70-30 among the population and the 70 wants an end to it, in which case it's just what people do and you have to comply
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02-19-2024 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I nominate lozen
Your out of you're mind. Their is no way he could handle the responsibilitee.
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02-19-2024 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Your out of you're mind. Their is no way he could handle the responsibilitee.
Hmm I thought it was responsibility ?

I do not think Biden should pardon Trump anyways
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02-19-2024 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
You said the law was well-enforced. If billions are stolen continually, then it's not being enforced much at all, right?

What does that have to do with your, "Oh, I worked an extra 30 minutes the other day and that wasn't reflected on my paycheck so I'll just correct the oversight by helping myself to the cash register today" scenario?

Obviously what I'm saying is if you're shorted, let someone know so they can correct it. If they refuse to, quit. Balancing the books through illicit means just complicates things.
Can you quote where I said that?

So In your scenario, which is not the one I said, you worked 30 minutes and haven’t been paid for it. And in your scenario you are saying it is not morally ok for the worker to take the money from the till if the company says we acknowledge you worked 30 minutes but we will not pay you the money that the law requires us to pay


And in your scenario the dude should go home and then try to sue them or contact the authorities? Is that correct ?

And if dude doesn’t ever get paid then no consequences, and the business got 30 minutes or free time from him, no jail time for the person who said they wouldn’t pay


And I’m to assume that if the employee took 30 min worth of time from the till that the employee would then be guilty of theft which could result in his death at most and will likely result in an arrest at minimum


Is anything I said wrong?
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02-19-2024 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
To clarify my position better, if american democracy can't hold steady with trump elected (which I think it would, easily, you disagree with this assessment), it doesn't deserve to exist in the first place nor to lead the world.

So for me it's either a bad model undeserving of existing gets thrown out, or the actually strong and resilient American democracy keeps going (like during and after the first trump term).
Wow, this is quite... something.
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02-19-2024 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Wow, this is quite... something.
Think for the equilibrium over the next couple of centuries, like the founders did
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02-19-2024 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Think for the equilibrium over the next couple of centuries, like the founders did
I think it's fair to say that Rococo's characterisation of your attitude towards democracy was bang on the money.
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02-19-2024 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I think it's fair to say that Rococo's characterisation of your attitude towards democracy was bang on the money.
I am Churchillian in my take on democracy.
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02-19-2024 , 04:44 PM
Anyway this is a good time to remind people that the USA survived having actual Nazis in the country, and they didn't even need to arrest all of them not even most of them and that was during a war against the actual Nazis, which the USA won very easily (the war with Japan required more efforts).

The USA not only survived but reached the pinnacle of world power while allowing something like a million citizens being part of pseudo Nazi groups and parties, while being a democracy, without suspending fundamental rights (they did overstep brutally against the Japanese, going mad with Japanese American internment camps, but that got fixed later).

That's how strong American democracy is.

Why is it that Americans constantly need foreigners to remind them of their greatness?
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02-19-2024 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
I am Churchillian in my take on democracy.
If you believe it's the best system we have, one would have thought you'd be a little more protective of it.
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02-19-2024 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Wow, this is quite... something.
Democracy must change by a cataclysmic event for it to have any value...
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02-19-2024 , 04:47 PM
On the pardon front .
About the difference of “integrity”.
Do Maga really believe trump wouldn’t have pardon already any of his children if they were in hunter place ?
Trump already pardon all his “friends”….
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02-19-2024 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I certainly don’t think he was trying to say that, which is what makes it hilarious, but if he’s equating himself to Nalvany there’s no other interpretation other than Putin killed Nalvany and that’s what Biden’s doing to him
But he loves Putin, surely he isn't saying Putin did something bad.

Seriously, does anyone have any idea what Trump's point was in that post?
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02-19-2024 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Anyway this is a good time to remind people that the USA survived having actual Nazis in the country, and they didn't even need to arrest all of them not even most of them and that was during a war against the actual Nazis, which the USA won very easily (the war with Japan required more efforts).

The USA not only survived but reached the pinnacle of world power while allowing something like a million citizens being part of pseudo Nazi groups and parties, while being a democracy, without suspending fundamental rights (they did overstep brutally against the Japanese, going mad with Japanese American internment camps, but that got fixed later).

That's how strong American democracy is.

Why is it that Americans constantly need foreigners to remind them of their greatness?
Which one of these actual Nazis was president, again?
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02-19-2024 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Democracy must change by a cataclysmic event for it to have any value...
Uh? The opposite. Democracy has to be able to resist attacks to it to be worth anything.

If you are just a "bad election" from collapse you should change your model
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02-19-2024 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Which one of these actual Nazis was president, again?
Exactly , democracies ends from the top first .
And it’s funny how people like luciom just disregard project 2025 like it’s nothing or science fiction .
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02-19-2024 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
But he loves Putin, surely he isn't saying Putin did something bad.

Seriously, does anyone have any idea what Trump's point was in that post?
Point was clear, "Democrats like Putin warp the law against their political opponents"
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02-19-2024 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Point was clear, "Democrats like Putin warp the law against their political opponents"
But he seems to admire Putin for doing that kind of thing.
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02-19-2024 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Anyway this is a good time to remind people that the USA survived having actual Nazis in the country, and they didn't even need to arrest all of them not even most of them and that was during a war against the actual Nazis, which the USA won very easily (the war with Japan required more efforts).

The USA not only survived but reached the pinnacle of world power while allowing something like a million citizens being part of pseudo Nazi groups and parties, while being a democracy, without suspending fundamental rights (they did overstep brutally against the Japanese, going mad with Japanese American internment camps, but that got fixed later).

That's how strong American democracy is.

Why is it that Americans constantly need foreigners to remind them of their greatness?
Except they didn't have a nazi as president, nor were any of congress, or the cabinet, or.........
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